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[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

He made it clear that if ANYONE makes a claim then he MUST call it out and must have proof of said claim. Who the **** does he think he is that the world must answer to his demands??? What governments do we see this kind of mentality?

He's a hypocrite through and through...

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Rob is most definitely a Maddow acolyte

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Rob is most definitely a Maddow acolyte

OMG... what if... just what if... they are the same person???? He seems like a gash to me.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Your math doesn't prove me wrong. Never has, never will. You post numbers on the bias to support your political affiliation. As I said, I don't care for your use of math. Was that not clear enough for you?

My "use of math"? You mean like referring to actual statistics instead of making them up? Or comparing apples to apples when evaluating price changes over time (unlike your comparison of plain ground beef in during Trump, to Angus beef today)? Or maybe looking at average prices to represent a long time period, instead of the low price that was hit on a single day?

Are you simple? You are the one claiming it is a fake video. I only ever claimed they can be faked. The video you are referring to is edited, but it is a real video even if you don't agree.

You've made it very clear. Many times. So, WHY would you expect me to believe a video? Especially one offered by a guy who thinks demons invented nuclear weapons.

Are you simple? He plead down... so tell me, what did he plea down from??? It's not my claim. You stated he plead guilty. This IS how it works kid. So if he took a plea then what did he plea down from? Or are you limited on the amount of Google searches like your post here lol.

Yes. You said he took a lesser plea. A lesser plea means there was a higher charge. This is YOUR claim. So, what was the higher charge?
You want me to prove your claim for you? Nope.

****, here we go again with Trump. We are talking about you and your **** accusation. Since you can't keep his name out of your mouth, I will play your game. You claim it would not be true. I will take the same stance you took towards Trump. He was accused of it so that means he is guilty. That means YOU would be guilty. After all, in your mind, all the proof needed is an accusation.

He was determined guilty by our justice system. There is no "accusation" at this point. It's concluded. And appealed, which he lost.
Did you miss the part where I said I would fight it in court? Do you know what it means to argue a case in court?
That's what happens because our justice system doesn't just say you're guilty simply because you are accused.

How come you don't know this when all you have to do is hit "search", and knowledge is unnecessary?

Cool, so prove it doesn't exist. The majority of the world says you are wrong.

Prove WHAT doesn't exist? There has to be something that exists before I can prove it DOESN'T exist.
So, what exists that you want me to prove does NOT?

I give you my word as a Trump supporter (True American) and promise you that you have more kiddie pern in your possession than I ever will. I know this because I have none and you volunteer to play with other peoples kids. A statement that you made.

Too late buddy. Your claim is that I'm into men. You are the one with the kiddie **** on your devices. Is that why you have to live under the supervision of another adult, and can't keep a steady job?

So you are claiming to be ignorant. Ok.

It was the green one.

No? You did it twice. You voted against him twice. You actively tried to prevent Trump from making America Great TWICE. What do you have against this country?????

My vote caused him to fail at making America great? Explain how that works, please.
Did it hurt his feelings and he refused to try? Did it distract him from doing the job? Was he too busy planning revenge?

Wow... so you are still lying? You claim to have a great memory yet forget that we (more than one of us) explained the meanings of fight and how it is not a single meaning and does not just mean a physical act. *****, stop demanding proof if you plan to ignore it.

Hmmm, so with the vote just hours away, "fight like hell" meant WHAT, exactly?
Write letters to your senator? Write letters to your governor? Put up signs in your front yard? Hang banners on your porch?

Oh wait, he told them to go the CAPITOL and "fight like hell" and that "you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength, and you have to be strong.”
He also said "We won the Presidential Election, by a lot. FIGHT FOR IT. Don’t let them take it away!”

So exactly what type of a "fight like hell" at the Capitol would change the electoral vote on the day of the actual vote? Be clear and precise with your words, none of your "direct and indirect" nonsense.

 

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Funny thing is I’ve been spam calls from COD in Atlanta GA about c19 vax and disease surveys. Also my local radio station has constant c19 shots. Another Winter of Death without h my clotshot.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

My "use of math"? You mean like referring to actual statistics instead of making them up? Or comparing apples to apples when evaluating price changes over time (unlike your comparison of plain ground beef in during Trump, to Angus beef today)? Or maybe looking at average prices to represent a long time period, instead of the low price that was hit on a single day?

It's real hard to talk to you. Why is it obvious for other people but it is always needing to be explained to you multiple times only to have you still not get it. Your use of math, such as trying to say we literally only pay pennies more for a gallon of gas when people tell you that they were paying under $2 a gallon and then are paying over $4 a gallon. YOU ignore reality and go play with some numbers used to soften blows by Democrats often and try to bullshit everyone with "pennies on the dollar".

You've made it very clear. Many times. So, WHY would you expect me to believe a video? Especially one offered by a guy who thinks demons invented nuclear weapons.

Oh, so because it supports your hatred of Trump you will take my word that videos can be faked. Got it. You are a bullshitter then?

Yes. You said he took a lesser plea. A lesser plea means there was a higher charge. This is YOUR claim. So, what was the higher charge?
You want me to prove your claim for you? Nope.

Your claim and many other idiots like you is that on Jan 6th an insurrection happened at the Capitol Building in D.C. correct? Well let me help you understand how courts work even though you claim to prosecute fraud.

Jacob Chansley charges... as in more than one.

Charges
Civil Disorder; Obsrtuction of an Official Proceeding; Entering and Remaining in a Restricted Building; Disorderly and Disruptive Conduct in a Restricted Building; Violent Entry and Disorderly Conduct in a Capitol Building; Parading, Demonstrating, or Picketing in a Capitol Building

/\ plead down to \/

Plea
Obstruction of an official proceeding, in violation of 18 U.S.C. 1512(c)(2).

He was determined guilty by our justice system. There is no "accusation" at this point. It's concluded. And appealed, which he lost.
Did you miss the part where I said I would fight it in court? Do you know what it means to argue a case in court?
That's what happens because our justice system doesn't just say you're guilty simply because you are accused.

And you would lose because as you made clear, you only need to accuse someone of **** for them to be convicted.

Prove WHAT doesn't exist? There has to be something that exists before I can prove it DOESN'T exist.
So, what exists that you want me to prove does NOT?

It is literally just your opinion that God doesn't exist. What you should say is that because you haven't seen what YOU accept as proof, God doesn't exist for you.

Too late buddy. Your claim is that I'm into men. You are the one with the kiddie **** on your devices. Is that why you have to live under the supervision of another adult, and can't keep a steady job?

Show me where I made that claim in the last two days that you are "into men". Otherwise, one more lie to add to your list. You seem to make a lot of claims out of thin air don't you kid. I am hetero. I don't see kids as ****** in any capacity which is also why I do not think they can decide to chop of their penises so they can identify as a girl. You, however seem to champion the idea of kids and genital mutilation. I am also back in Concord, NC in MY house making renovations. Try again idiot.

It was the green one.

My vote caused him to fail at making America great? Explain how that works, please.
Did it hurt his feelings and he refused to try? Did it distract him from doing the job? Was he too busy planning revenge?

Explain how that works... you voted Biden in. Enough said. America needs attention now.

Hmmm, so with the vote just hours away, "fight like hell" meant WHAT, exactly?
Write letters to your senator? Write letters to your governor? Put up signs in your front yard? Hang banners on your porch?

Are you unaware of the verb PROTEST?

Oh wait, he told them to go the CAPITOL and "fight like hell" and that "you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength, and you have to be strong.”
He also said "We won the Presidential Election, by a lot. FIGHT FOR IT. Don’t let them take it away!”

Ok you violent simple minded idiot. You are on the side of all those sensitive babies who want to claim they get hurt by peoples words. Tell me, are the voices of several thousand people more powerful than the voices of 6 or seven people? Do you think the Million man March would have had as much impact if it was just 5 guys walking down the street?

For the last time, fight like hell, use your words, peacefully and patriotically. These are the words Trump used. He encouraged a peaceful protest to let those people in the capitol know that Americans didn't approve. Your sides FBI informants were then instructed to cause problems.

So exactly what type of a "fight like hell" at the Capitol would change the electoral vote on the day of the actual vote? Be clear and precise with your words, none of your "direct and indirect" nonsense.

Seriously, do not dictate to me how I respond to your bullshit demands. There was no insurrection and all WILL BE PARDONED by YOUR President Donald J. Trump.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

It's real hard to talk to you. Why is it obvious for other people but it is always needing to be explained to you multiple times only to have you still not get it. Your use of math, such as trying to say we literally only pay pennies more for a gallon of gas when people tell you that they were paying under $2 a gallon and then are paying over $4 a gallon. YOU ignore reality and go play with some numbers used to soften blows by Democrats often and try to bullshit everyone with "pennies on the dollar".

Just because YOU have not experienced an increased income in decades, does not mean the WORLD hasn't.
You act as if the nominal price of goods is the ONLY thing that has gone up. Maybe that's true for you, but not for the average American.
For the average American, wages have gone up almost every single year since 1951.
How the hell do you think people are paying $100,000 for a pickup truck these days? Do you think that could happen if people were still making $10,000 a year?

Your lack of math skills and your lack of ability to grow makes you an outlier. Try harder. Or just try.

Oh, so because it supports your hatred of Trump you will take my word that videos can be faked. Got it. You are a bullshitter then?

So now you want to discredit your own argument when it's used against you.
Nice flip-flop.
So which is it: Videos are faked, or not?

Your claim and many other idiots like you is that on Jan 6th an insurrection happened at the Capitol Building in D.C. correct? Well let me help you understand how courts work even though you claim to prosecute fraud.

Jacob Chansley charges... as in more than one.

Charges
Civil Disorder; Obsrtuction of an Official Proceeding; Entering and Remaining in a Restricted Building; Disorderly and Disruptive Conduct in a Restricted Building; Violent Entry and Disorderly Conduct in a Capitol Building; Parading, Demonstrating, or Picketing in a Capitol Building

/\ plead down to \/

Plea
Obstruction of an official proceeding, in violation of 18 U.S.C. 1512(c)(2).

Excellent, You can teach me how the courts work.
So, which charge did he plea DOWN from? Which charge of those listed carried the potential for a harsher punishment if he was convicted of it?
Name the specific charge, and the punishment for that charge. Educate me.

And you would lose because as you made clear, you only need to accuse someone of **** for them to be convicted.

Oh? When did I do that? A post number will be fine.

It is literally just your opinion that God doesn't exist. What you should say is that because you haven't seen what YOU accept as proof, God doesn't exist for you.

Until there is proof of existence, there is no existence.
To this date, no one has provided any proof of the existence of a god. Belief is not proof. Belief does not bring something into reality.
Feel free to provide proof of existence, and I will change my tune.

Show me where I made that claim in the last two days that you are "into men". Otherwise, one more lie to add to your list. You seem to make a lot of claims out of thin air don't you kid. I am hetero. I don't see kids as ****** in any capacity which is also why I do not think they can decide to chop of their penises so they can identify as a girl. You, however seem to champion the idea of kids and genital mutilation. I am also back in Concord, NC in MY house making renovations. Try again idiot.

"The last two days"? Show me proof that in the last two days you weren't looking at kiddie p0rn on one of your devices.
You CLAIM to be hetero, but you've put up more posts with your fantasies of male-to-male *** than I have seen on this or nay forum.

Will you go to to Union Street so you can pay $3.09 for gas and complain you pay over three dollars, or drive the half mile to Corban and pay $2.87?

Explain how that works... you voted Biden in. Enough said. America needs attention now.

Explain how my vote for Biden prevented Trump from making America great while he was POTUS.

Are you unaware of the verb PROTEST?

Tell me how you think a protest will change an electoral vote on the day of the electoral vote.
Do you think that day is set aside to be some kind of "do-over" for the voting?

What "fight like hell" event do you think can change a vote count that happened two months previous?
Explain what this means, given that the vote count was completed and locked in two months prior: "We won the Presidential Election, by a lot. FIGHT FOR IT. Don’t let them take it away!”

Ok you violent simple minded idiot. You are on the side of all those sensitive babies who want to claim they get hurt by peoples words. Tell me, are the voices of several thousand people more powerful than the voices of 6 or seven people? Do you think the Million man March would have had as much impact if it was just 5 guys walking down the street?

I don't recall the Million Man March being used to prevent an electoral vote, and keep Trump in power after he was very clearly voted out of office.
I don't recall any of the marchers breaking into the Capitol building that day in October, trying to disrupt a vote.

Can you provide any references to make your analogy make sense?

For the last time, fight like hell, use your words, peacefully and patriotically. These are the words Trump used. He encouraged a peaceful protest to let those people in the capitol know that Americans didn't approve. Your sides FBI informants were then instructed to cause problems.

"We won the Presidential Election, by a lot. FIGHT FOR IT. Don’t let them take it away!”
"fight like hell"
If "fight like hell" is waving flags and wearing hats, he's definitely not the person who should be CIC of our military.
And if that's what you believe, you should avoid offering to fight people. Someone is going to take you up on the offer, and I can guarantee that they won't just wave a flag at you.

"Americans didn't approve"? Oh? What about all the Americans that voted him out of office?
It seems like TRUMP "didn't approve" and wanted his sycophants to change the outcome of the election in order to please him.
And they tried.
And failed.

Seriously, do not dictate to me how I respond to your bullshit demands. There was no insurrection and all WILL BE PARDONED by YOU President Donald J. Trump.

Maybe so. And maybe they will meet with early fates worse than their current ones.
But didn't you also predict he'd win the appeal of the E Jean Carroll case? How's that work out?

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

@ThxOne just make him back his shit up...he'll go 100% snowflake meltdown and then ignore you

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Just because YOU have not experienced an increased income in decades, does not mean the WORLD hasn't.
You act as if the nominal price of goods is the ONLY thing that has gone up. Maybe that's true for you, but not for the average American.
For the average American, wages have gone up almost every single year since 1951.
How the hell do you think people are paying $100,000 for a pickup truck these days? Do you think that could happen if people were still making $10,000 a year?

They aren't. Explain to me why Americans owe credit card companies almost $2T.

Your lack of math skills and your lack of ability to grow makes you an outlier. Try harder. Or just try.

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You keep making this claim too. You don't know my finances. What I do know is $4 is two dollars more than $2. That is not pennies more. Stop trying to educate me on math or finances. You are an idiot and are not fit to teach anyone.

So now you want to discredit your own argument when it's used against you.
Nice flip-flop.
So which is it: Videos are faked, or not?

Edited does not mean fake. Explain what a fake video is. If you are watching the pictures move is it not a real video?

Excellent, You can teach me how the courts work.
So, which charge did he plea DOWN from? Which charge of those listed carried the potential for a harsher punishment if he was convicted of it?
Name the specific charge, and the punishment for that charge. Educate me.

Huh? Are you being retarded for effect? He was charged with the whole list and if convicted the sentence would have been far more than what he plead down too. Seriously, are you being stupid for a reason?

Oh? When did I do that? A post number will be fine.

Every post that you claim Trump is guilty of **** with no proof. HER WORD IS NOT PROOF but you think it is.

Until there is proof of existence, there is no existence.
To this date, no one has provided any proof of the existence of a god. Belief is not proof. Belief does not bring something into reality.
Feel free to provide proof of existence, and I will change my tune.

No proof that you accept. So again, say that God doesn't exist for you. I don't care if you change your tune. You're nobody.

"The last two days"? Show me proof that in the last two days you weren't looking at kiddie p0rn on one of your devices.
You CLAIM to be hetero, but you've put up more posts with your fantasies of male-to-male *** than I have seen on this or nay forum.

The burden of proof is on you.

Will you go to to Union Street so you can pay $3.09 for gas and complain you pay over three dollars, or drive the half mile to Corban and pay $2.87?

The Shell on Branchview Dr. NE $2.62 - Fuel Rewards and T-Life. Both offer me savings on Tuesdays.

Explain how my vote for Biden prevented Trump from making America great while he was POTUS.

By creating a divide in the country and supporting the lefts propaganda and bigotry towards Trump.

Tell me how you think a protest will change an electoral vote on the day of the electoral vote.
Do you think that day is set aside to be some kind of "do-over" for the voting?

By showing the rest of the country they can come together and speak against what they know is wrong.

What "fight like hell" event do you think can change a vote count that happened two months previous?
Explain what this means, given that the vote count was completed and locked in two months prior: "We won the Presidential Election, by a lot. FIGHT FOR IT. Don’t let them take it away!”

See above.

I don't recall the Million Man March being used to prevent an electoral vote, and keep Trump in power after he was very clearly voted out of office.
I don't recall any of the marchers breaking into the Capitol building that day in October, trying to disrupt a vote.

I never claimed it was. Thanks for proving your stupidity once again.

Can you provide any references to make your analogy make sense?

To you? Probably not. You seem to have some blockages in what you claim is a brain. I will give it a shot though.

Biden says the Million man march was too big to ignore but would have been easy if it was only five guys looking at the hairs on his leg rise by the pool and his icecream. Come on man, the roaches. Poor kids are just as smart as white kids.

"We won the Presidential Election, by a lot. FIGHT FOR IT. Don’t let them take it away!”
"fight like hell"
If "fight like hell" is waving flags and wearing hats, he's definitely not the person who should be CIC of our military.
And if that's what you believe, you should avoid offering to fight people. Someone is going to take you up on the offer, and I can guarantee that they won't just wave a flag at you.

What is clear is that YOU should never be in charge of people. You don't have the temperament or mentality for it.

"Americans didn't approve"? Oh? What about all the Americans that voted him out of office?
It seems like TRUMP "didn't approve" and wanted his sycophants to change the outcome of the election in order to please him.
And they tried.
And failed.

Geee and now they seem to have voted him back... why is that Rob. Why vote back into office such a hated person?

Maybe so. And maybe they will meet with early fates worse than their current ones.
But didn't you also predict he'd win the appeal of the E Jean Carroll case? How's that work out?

Nope.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

https://thehill.com/opinion/5060813-diploma-divide-national-service/

Honestly I think this would work if done right...a big reach for the government to do anything right though

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Funny thing is I’ve been spam calls from COD in Atlanta GA about c19 vax and disease surveys. Also my local radio station has constant c19 shots. Another Winter of Death without h my clotshot.

Wow, they call you? I work in Healthcare and my employer stopped pushing the C19 vax.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

https://thehill.com/opinion/5060813-diploma-divide-national-service/

Honestly I think this would work if done right...a big reach for the government to do anything right though

Agreed. It's like socialized medicine & undergrad education; tends to work in other countries, but I suspect it would fail in the US.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Agreed. It's like socialized medicine & undergrad education; tends to work in other countries, but I suspect it would fail in the US.

I just think it'd lead to more common sense in the country...I haven't met many vets that are on the fringe of either side

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

I just think it'd lead to more common sense in the country...I haven't met many vets that are on the fringe of either side

It can't be all military though. I've met tons of guys who would meltdown in USMC boot camp.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

It can't be all military though. I've met tons of guys who would meltdown in USMC boot camp.

Part of it was civilian or non-combat roles so there'd be plenty of options...besides if you want usmc boot camp videos...it ain't like it used to be