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[RobGMN Premium Member]

Every time I said that YOU parroted something is when you have done it. This is YOUR far left America!! You are GUILTY until we lose interest.

You have argumentative skills of a child.

It can be whatever you like. I am not stuck in a box until it is convenient for me to argue against Trump. I am a free thinker, an American.

You haven't had a free thought in years. You think what Trump TELLS you to think.

41 month sentence. Tell me Rob, what did Jacob Chansley do that was not peaceful. You know, when he was being escorted by police calmly through the building. What was or were the acts of violence? Be specific.

He pleaded guilty to obstructing an official proceeding. He went into the Capitol with a weapon. He went into restricted space. He doesn't deny what he did, and he himself described what he did as "indifensible".
They disproved the whole "escorted" nonsense, so don't waste my time with that shit.

Tell me, what actions did these people take to "attempt" to overthrow anything? Be specific. Did they hold law makers at knife point? Did they put law makers on their knees with guns to their heads? What were the specific actions taken by these people?

For someone who is defending the shitbags who did it, you don't even understand what they were trying to do?
That's rather odd.
They were trying to prevent the electoral vote that would officially make Biden POTUS. Preventing the vote would have kept Trump as POTUS. That's an overthrow.
For someone who is defending the shitbags who did it, you don't even understand what they were trying to do?

As I remember, nothing stopped and business continued in the capitol as normal once the guided tour was over.

You must go on some pretty ******* wild "guided tours". How many windows do you break on these tours? Do you bring explosives, or stun guns? Assault the police or security? Do you climb through the broken windows as part of the "tour"?

Honestly, every attempt you make to minimize what happened that day makes you look more like a piece of shit enemy of this country. Given your desire to see Communism get a stronghold over our allies, I have to wonder if you're even a citizen of the U.S.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Or maybe we us "stupid assholes" are smart enough to know Trump isn't going to overthrow the Panamanian gov't. However, I bet I could find a boat load of Dumb *** liberals commentators and politicians who either believe Trump is going to overthrow the Panamanian gov't or know they can convince a bunch of Dumb *** liberal voters that Trump does plan to overthrow the Panamanian gov't.

Tell me HOW he is going to take back the Panama Canal, by "demanding" it be "returned to us".
Explain WHY he doesn't understand how it is managed, and by whom.
Explain WHY he thinks we are getting "ripped off" by using it.
Explain WHAT his talk of it "falling into the wrong hands" means.

Or is it as you suggest all just bullshit that he spews, knowing the vast majority of his followers are not smart enough to know he is full of shit whenever he spews it, and he's just doing it to rile up their jingoistic tendencies? Create an enemy where none exists? Turn an ally directly worth $12Billion a year INTO an enemy?

Every time he says something asinine, the rhetoric of "He's a man who says what he means, and means what he says" suddenly becomes that he is being comical, or sarcastic, or thinking outside of the box, or some other bullshit excuse for it. Excuses made by himself or by others for him.

For **** sake, he suggested injecting disinfectants into people for COVID and then later claimed he was being sarcastic "just to see what would happen".
What kind of ******* moron would be "sarcastic" just to get a rise out of people, when 178,000 were already dead in 2 months time? Was he hoping for higher TV ratings for his press conferences? Grab an audience that just wants to see what a moron he can be?

"I was asking a question sarcastically to reporters just like you, just to see what would happen," Trump said on Friday during a bill signing for the coronavirus aid package. "I was asking a sarcastic and a very sarcastic question to the reporters in the room about disinfectant on the inside."
What a ******* idiot.

It just struck me as I was making myself a coffee: Biden stutters over some words (an affliction from childhood) or makes up a comical story for a commencement ceremony speech, and the Republican have an aneurism over his "dementia" and mental decline.

Trump suggests injecting disinfectants, claims the election was stolen from him, speaks of airports during the Revolutionary War, tells people Mexico will pay for a wall HE wants to build here, tells people that other countries pay import tariffs that we impose on goods coming here, decides he wants Canada to be our 51st state, wants to buy Greenland, claims the best economy in history, promises lower grocery prices and immediately reneges on the promise after he is elected, wants to do a hostile takeover of the Panama Canal.

And the Republicans cheer.

It's like living in Bizarro World.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Let's clarify. Are you saying that Democrats do not have "dumb-as-****" ideas... ever? They are perfect people who never make mistakes?

"Find me a Democrat who floats the dumb-as-**** ideas that Trump does, and I'll call them a stupid *******, just like I call Trump a stupid *******."

Really? You need that sentence clarified? Too many words, or are you simply avoiding doing what should be a very simple task if it happens so much?
I'll try again: "Find me a Democrat who floats the dumb-as-**** ideas that Trump does, and I'll call them a stupid *******, just like I call Trump a stupid *******."
Provide the examples so I can call someone a stupid *******.

So you think the only way we can do anything in Panama is by "Overthrowing" the Panamanian government? Wow, it's that single train of thought that all you Democrats seem to have in common. Apparently the only thing you can come up with to do anything is through violence.

OK. So tell me your plan for us taking control of the canal, when the Panamanian government's president says "Every square meter of the Panama Canal and the surrounding area belongs to Panama and will continue belonging (to Panama),"
Do you think maybe we can "wear hats and wave flags", and they will peacefully hand it over to us?
How do we get it back without the use of force, when they are not going to willingly hand it over?

Remember Trump's words before you reply: "If the principles, both moral and legal, of this magnanimous gesture of giving are not followed, then we will demand that the Panama Canal be returned to us, in full, quickly and without question."
He didn't say we will buy it. He didn't say we will barter for it. He didn't say we will bid for the contract to run it. He didn't say we will beg for it.
So, HOW are we getting it back?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

You have argumentative skills of a child.

I'm sorry you feel that way.

You haven't had a free thought in years. You think what Trump TELLS you to think.

Just because you are weak-minded enough to let the left tell YOU what to think doesn't mean that tactic will work on me. You people fear Trump so you vilify him. There is NO reason to fear America being great again.

He pleaded guilty to obstructing an official proceeding. He went into the Capitol with a weapon. He went into restricted space. He doesn't deny what he did, and he himself described what he did as "indifensible".
They disproved the whole "escorted" nonsense, so don't waste my time with that shit.

Horseshit. How do you disprove VIDEO PROOF???? In his hands, an AMERICAN FLAG. Is the AMERICAN FLAG a weapon to you????

Dispute this video evidence you commie conspirator!

For someone who is defending the shitbags who did it, you don't even understand what they were trying to do?
That's rather odd.
They were trying to prevent the electoral vote that would officially make Biden POTUS. Preventing the vote would have kept Trump as POTUS. That's an overthrow.
For someone who is defending the shitbags who did it, you don't even understand what they were trying to do?

You haven't disagreed with ANYTHING the left has told you when it comes to making Trump the villain. What kind of liar are you that you will only believe those things that reinforce what you are told to believe? You are the shitbag. You are the problem with America today.

You must go on some pretty ******* wild "guided tours". How many windows do you break on these tours? Do you bring explosives, or stun guns? Assault the police or security? Do you climb through the broken windows as part of the "tour"?

How many FBI informants were there again?

Honestly, every attempt you make to minimize what happened that day makes you look more like a piece of shit enemy of this country. Given your desire to see Communism get a stronghold over our allies, I have to wonder if you're even a citizen of the U.S.

No, every breath you take defending the lies of the left prove what a worthless piece of trash you are and how you can't think for yourself. The left is all about telling people what to think and do and you are the audience they need.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

"Find me a Democrat who floats the dumb-as-**** ideas that Trump does, and I'll call them a stupid *******, just like I call Trump a stupid *******."

Really? You need that sentence clarified? Too many words, or are you simply avoiding doing what should be a very simple task if it happens so much?
I'll try again: "Find me a Democrat who floats the dumb-as-**** ideas that Trump does, and I'll call them a stupid *******, just like I call Trump a stupid *******."
Provide the examples so I can call someone a stupid *******.

So you are saying you have never looked for yourself? Why only look for Republicans? Aren't they ALL politicians? Let me guess... you are all for segregation too. Do you think Black Americans should be allowed to vote?

OK. So tell me your plan for us taking control of the canal, when the Panamanian government's president says "Every square meter of the Panama Canal and the surrounding area belongs to Panama and will continue belonging (to Panama),"
Do you think maybe we can "wear hats and wave flags", and they will peacefully hand it over to us?
How do we get it back without the use of force, when they are not going to willingly hand it over?

My plan? Who said I was doing anything? What is your plan for not being so dramatic?

Remember Trump's words before you reply: "If the principles, both moral and legal, of this magnanimous gesture of giving are not followed, then we will demand that the Panama Canal be returned to us, in full, quickly and without question."
He didn't say we will buy it. He didn't say we will barter for it. He didn't say we will bid for the contract to run it. He didn't say we will beg for it.
So, HOW are we getting it back?

What I see here is obviously PART of a speech. I know that when the left provided the text to you, with no context, no inflection of words, cherry picked out and force fed to you that you were left up to the task of forming an opinion based on what they gave you. We all know where YOUR mind goes. Don't you dare tell us you watched the videos either... you don't do that remember. Apparently you have no screens or ability to watch the news or any videos at all. Somehow you are stuck in 1887. It would explain your ignorance, hatred and bigotry.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Just keep your head up your ***, and deny reality. Repeating a lie makes it truth, right?

C'mon Rob...point out the lie you claim I repeated

Unless you know that you're lying about that too...

 

[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

Originally budgeted for $2.9 billion in 2008, now over $15 billion 22 mile rail. Fed only giving us $2b

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

So you are saying you have never looked for yourself? Why only look for Republicans? Aren't they ALL politicians? Let me guess... you are all for segregation too. Do you think Black Americans should be allowed to vote?

OK. We get it: You can't find an example, despite all your blustering.
Next time, just save some typing and admit you can't back up what you say. We already know it, anyway.

And, I don't have to LOOK for Republicans doing it. Trump is a public enough figure that his stupidity always just out there to be seen. He even bypasses the media and posts it directly in his tweets. Of course, others like MGT only add to the pile.

My plan? Who said I was doing anything? What is your plan for not being so dramatic?

Since you seem to know it would not involve hostilities, you must have some alternate plan.
What is your non-hostile plan for a US takeover of the Panama Canal?
Or is this like your "take care of America" line, when you have no idea at all how you would "take care of America"?

What I see here is obviously PART of a speech. I know that when the left provided the text to you, with no context, no inflection of words, cherry picked out and force fed to you that you were left up to the task of forming an opinion based on what they gave you. We all know where YOUR mind goes. Don't you dare tell us you watched the videos either... you don't do that remember. Apparently you have no screens or ability to watch the news or any videos at all. Somehow you are stuck in 1887. It would explain your ignorance, hatred and bigotry.

Ahhhh, back to your claims of cherry-picking, modified quotes, etc.
Here's the tweet. The whole tweet. Not "PART of a speech". The whole tweet of the words HE gave us.
I underlined some important words for you.
"If the principles, both moral and legal, of this magnanimous gesture of giving are not followed, then we will demand that the Panama Canal be returned to us, in full, quickly and without question."
Explain to me clearly how this doesn't mean that he wants to take control of the Panama Canal, against the wishes of the Panamanian president and government:

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I'm sorry you feel that way.

Just because you are weak-minded enough to let the left tell YOU what to think doesn't mean that tactic will work on me. You people fear Trump so you vilify him. There is NO reason to fear America being great again.

Again Again? He failed the first time, and never told us what the AGAIN even was supposed to be.

Horseshit. How do you disprove VIDEO PROOF???? In his hands, an AMERICAN FLAG. Is the AMERICAN FLAG a weapon to you????

Horseshit? He didn't plead guilty? He didn't admit that what he did was "indefensible"? He wasn't in the building unlawfully? He wasn't carrying a pole with a pike on it? he didn't blame Trump for his actions? He didn't incite action by others?
Interesting.
OK, disprove all of those things, please.

Dispute this video evidence you commie conspirator!

Ahhh, a Tucker Carlson video edited to make it look like what Tucker is TELLING you to believe.
Just cherry-picked little segments to create the perfect little "innocence" narrative.
And his guilty plea was all faked. But no one caught on.
Right.

You haven't disagreed with ANYTHING the left has told you when it comes to making Trump the villain. What kind of liar are you that you will only believe those things that reinforce what you are told to believe? You are the shitbag. You are the problem with America today.

The left hasn't made Trump the villain. TRUMP made himself the villain, because he's a dishonest ******* idiot, supported by ******* idiots.

How many FBI informants were there again?

What happened to your defense for Trump inciting the whole thing? The defense where you said that he could not be at fault sicne people have free will and could not be controlled or influenced by him?
Now you are saying the informants are at fault for what other people chose to do?

So the informants have more influence over Trump sycophants than Trump has over them?
Interesting changeup of your narrative.

No, every breath you take defending the lies of the left prove what a worthless piece of trash you are and how you can't think for yourself. The left is all about telling people what to think and do and you are the audience they need.

Still waiting for that list of lies.
Why are you having so much trouble providing one?
I thought Google was magic and just created info by simply asking for it, even when you don't know it exists.
Is your computer broken? Did you get blocked from Google?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

OK. We get it: You can't find an example, despite all your blustering.
Next time, just save some typing and admit you can't back up what you say. We already know it, anyway.

And, I don't have to LOOK for Republicans doing it. Trump is a public enough figure that his stupidity always just out there to be seen. He even bypasses the media and posts it directly in his tweets. Of course, others like MGT only add to the pile.


Since you seem to know it would not involve hostilities, you must have some alternate plan.
What is your non-hostile plan for a US takeover of the Panama Canal?
Or is this like your "take care of America" line, when you have no idea at all how you would "take care of America"?


Ahhhh, back to your claims of cherry-picking, modified quotes, etc.
Here's the tweet. The whole tweet. Not "PART of a speech". The whole tweet of the words HE gave us.
I underlined some important words for you.
"If the principles, both moral and legal, of this magnanimous gesture of giving are not followed, then we will demand that the Panama Canal be returned to us, in full, quickly and without question."
Explain to me clearly how this doesn't mean that he wants to take control of the Panama Canal, against the wishes of the Panamanian president and government:
View attachment 62256

Ok, I get it. Only you get to ask questions and expect answers.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Again Again? He failed the first time, and never told us what the AGAIN even was supposed to be.

As in before Democrats made it not great.

Horseshit? He didn't plead guilty? He didn't admit that what he did was "indefensible"? He wasn't in the building unlawfully? He wasn't carrying a pole with a pike on it? he didn't blame Trump for his actions? He didn't incite action by others?
Interesting.
OK, disprove all of those things, please.

Here we go again with you ignoring anything ask of YOU and you turn right back around and demand more shit.

Ahhh, a Tucker Carlson video edited to make it look like what Tucker is TELLING you to believe.
Just cherry-picked little segments to create the perfect little "innocence" narrative.
And his guilty plea was all faked. But no one caught on.
Right.

It's a video showing that he was guided around by police and was carrying an American flag. Now you will deny video proof of factual evidence because you are that damn dumb.

The left hasn't made Trump the villain. TRUMP made himself the villain, because he's a dishonest ******* idiot, supported by ******* idiots.

No, it has all been the left.

What happened to your defense for Trump inciting the whole thing? The defense where you said that he could not be at fault sicne people have free will and could not be controlled or influenced by him?
Now you are saying the informants are at fault for what other people chose to do?

I don't have to defend him. It is the left calling it an insurrection. I never claimed it was an insurrection so there is nothing to defend. You want me to defend capitol police murdering an unarmed vet?

So the informants have more influence over Trump sycophants than Trump has over them?
Interesting changeup of your narrative.

The informants were instructed to do things.

Still waiting for that list of lies.
Why are you having so much trouble providing one?
I thought Google was magic and just created info by simply asking for it, even when you don't know it exists.
Is your computer broken? Did you get blocked from Google?

I don't keep a list. That is for the weak minded people with sensitive feelings.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

I see...because I called Rob on his propaganda he's ignoring me

Of course he threw out a lie before being an infant

 

[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

Too bad he won’t see the return of the Panama Canal.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Too bad he won’t see the return of the Panama Canal.

That's one way to cut the budget