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[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

 

[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

Cmon CNN think people are that stupid. 90 Day “Prisoner” has fresh clothes hair cut, no poop in a cell.


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[RobGMN Premium Member]

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This Jimi, is exactly what I'm talking about.
Point out a very valid negative about Trump, and you must have "TDS!!!!!"


For my own education, I did a comparison shop of an old grocery order to a new one:


Groceries 2022 v 2024

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

I'm in the same boat. We literally bought chickens because it's cheaper to feed them than buying eggs

I forgot how much eggs went up. Definitely threw a wrench in my go to Denver Omelet for breakfast. They've actually come back down recently. My wife wanted to get chickens but there are too many foxes in our neighborhood.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

THIS IS MY SHOPPING CART TODAY WITH A GOOD HANDFUL
OF THE SAME ITEMS FROM THE SAME STORE



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This was an education for me and proved what I myself am experiencing in my locale at the same store. To avoid "cheating" by ignoring shrinkflation, WalMart is kind enough to provide pricing by weight that I can share here.
Again, this is only for my store in my area.
So no, I am not bullshitting when I say my expenses have not doubled.
But if yours went up 50% and mine went up 3%, (assuming we buy the same products), then that's an average of "only" 26%.
Maybe that's why the CPI doesn't show what YOU see or what I'M seeing, but the country as a WHOLE?


Hawaiian Bread is up by $0.03 per ounce
Red onion is down by $0.04 per ounce
Pork loin is down by $0.39 per ounce
Angel hair pasta is the same at $0.1105 per ounce
Croutons are down by $0.04 per ounce
Ragu sauce is up by $0.01 per ounce
Salt is up by $0.016 per ounce
Snack popcorn is up by $.010 per ounce
Zout is the same at $0,0158 per ounce
Diet Coke is up by $0.003 per ounce (or $1.10 per case of 24; $0.045 per can)
Milk is down by $0.005 per ounce or $0.57 per gallon

The entire original order was $115. If I could simply duplicate it, I would guess a few dollars overall difference based on the changes in the items above.

The Diet Coke really sticks out b/c I remember $10-11 for 24 packs being "the" price years ago.
Could you be comparing the $5/12 back then to the $13.28 for 24 today in Colorado Springs? I'd be stunned if you were paying $5 for 24 cans even 10 years ago.


August 2022:

Today:

Up by 8 cents an egg.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Cmon CNN think people are that stupid. 90 Day “Prisoner” has fresh clothes hair cut, no poop in a cell.


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LOL - I just finished watching that video. Just more evidence that CNN lives in an alternate reality, then every-so-often real reality comes along and bites them in the @$$!!!

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

I forgot how much eggs went up. Definitely threw a wrench in my go to Denver Omelet for breakfast. They've actually come back down recently. My wife wanted to get chickens but there are too many foxes in our neighborhood.

We have a lot of coyotes around but a cheap chicken wire and t post fence has kept our 5 chickens safe

We split the feed costs with the in-laws and we get about 30 eggs a week on on $30 food a month...so roughly 60 fresh eggs for $15 a month on my end...eggs are 3.50ish a dozen in the store.

Plus occasionally we sell a couple dozen here and there too

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

I'd say this site gives a pretty decent representation of what can be seen across the 'web when it comes to how the right reacts to info that paints Trump in a negative light.
I've pointed out a ton of stuff about him that is factual and easily verified. Supporters will fight to the virtual death to deny it, ignore it, or in some way push it the background.

Have the cries of "fake news" decreased? Maybe? Or have they been replaced?
I show a very clear instance of a Trump lie, and then someone blindly supporting that lie right on this site, and the response is that I'M the one with "TDS". I guess it's not calling it fake news, but is simply shouting "TDS" any different? Not so much.

That chart was actually the most popular cereals by purchase history. It was culled from Amazon Did they become most popular because the prices dropped? Not sure.
Did they reduce the size of the box by 70% do to shrinkflation? That would be a helluva change in order to get the doubling of price you are talking about.
That 18 ounce box of Cheerios would now have to be 6 ounces.



I referenced 2020 prices because they were actually the lower prices of the goods during Trump's term. I was giving him the benefit of a lower starting point to compare to today's prices. And the comparison still didn't yield a doubling of prices.
I knwo you are talking your personal price histories, but I am talking the country as a whole.
The stalemate is that you don't believe the data that is collected, compiled and presented to show what happens on average. Any discussion really becomes moot, as history is a lie and the only reality is what you pay today.


Before I read this part, I actually tried to look at a Walmart order I had from 2020. The system shows the order, then asks me to log in when I try to view details, then instantly times me out after I put in my super-secret 6-digit two-factor authentication code.
I'll try again later and post what I come up with, for shits and giggles.

It's not me. I'm talking to people in Florida, Texas, Wisconsin, Wyoming, Nebraska, Arizona, New Mexico, etc, I can't think of anybody who hasn't said something along the lines of groceries have doubled when the subject comes up. My buddies and Portland and Seattle seem to have gotten even worse than doubled. This is no different than Covid/C19 jab: you can't tell people X is happening when they can look around and see that X isn't happening and indeed it's Y that is happening.

Again the cereal chart is rather useless, because we don't know what products they were using. They cite the most common products. If the most common product was the 4 pack of 16oz boxes and is now the 40oz bag, then I'm not too impressed with the reduction in cost, because there is a reduction in quantity. They could have given us a useful metric like the price/oz but chose not to. Maybe I live in some sort of inflation Nexus and everybody I communicate with lives in a similar inflation Nexus, but I doubt it. I travel to the surrounding states quite a bit, I'm not seeing different inflation trends there.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

@Eggs

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

It's not me. I'm talking to people in Florida, Texas, Wisconsin, Wyoming, Nebraska, Arizona, New Mexico, etc, I can't think of anybody who hasn't said something along the lines of groceries have doubled when the subject comes up. My buddies and Portland and Seattle seem to have gotten even worse than doubled. This is no different than Covid/C19 jab: you can't tell people X is happening when they can look around and see that X isn't happening and indeed it's Y that is happening.

Again the cereal chart is rather useless, because we don't know what products they were using. They cite the most common products. If the most common product was the 4 pack of 16oz boxes and is now the 40oz bag, then I'm not too impressed with the reduction in cost, because there is a reduction in quantity. They could have given us a useful metric like the price/oz but chose not to. Maybe I live in some sort of inflation Nexus and everybody I communicate with lives in a similar inflation Nexus, but I doubt it. I travel to the surrounding states quite a bit, I'm not seeing different inflation trends there.

He's using a 2 year span to say groceries haven't gone up...

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Maybe I live in some sort of inflation Nexus and everybody I communicate with lives in a similar inflation Nexus

Unless you match up with the chart, you and everyone you know are just outliers

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

He's using a 2 year span to say groceries have t gone up...

It's all sorts of weird data. The milk stood out to me. The 2020 commodity price was $3/gal, but I was routinely paying $2/gal, so the commodity price for that product has nothing to do with price in the store.

This is a more useful chart. And surprise, surprise, we can see the wholesale price of milk does indeed almost double (jan/21 - Jul/22) and I sure as heck saw that at the checkout lane. Did wholesale prices of milk drop down after the Jul/22 peak? Sure did. Did the retail price of milk at the store go back down? I think you'd be hard pressed to find somebody that says retail milk prices dropped ~25% in the past 2 years.

US Milk Spot Price Monthly Insights: IMF Primary Commodity Prices | YCharts

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[Jimi77 Premium Member]

We have a lot of coyotes around but a cheap chicken wire and t post fence has kept our 5 chickens safe

We split the feed costs with the in-laws and we get about 30 eggs a week on on $30 food a month...so roughly 60 fresh eggs for $15 a month on my end...eggs are 3.50ish a dozen in the store.

Plus occasionally we sell a couple dozen here and there too

Nice and probably a higher quality egg compared to the $3.50/dozen eggs in the store. FWIW, $5/dozen in metro Denver. That's what I get for living in a big blue city.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Unless you match up with the chart, you and everyone you know are just outliers

Not only are we outliers, but if groceries really only went up ~25% then where are all the people whose grocery prices either went down or stayed the same to offset all the people who claim prices have ~doubled?

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Nice and probably a higher quality egg compared to the $3.50/dozen eggs in the store. FWIW, $5/dozen in metro Denver. That's what I get for living in a big blue city.

They're good eggs and I'm a glutton for a 6 egg Denver Omelet

My kiddo cleans their coop and besides that it's about 10 minutes of labor per day which is over double that 30 minute thing by itself