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[RobGMN Premium Member]

Then I would turn around and counter sue. Stop acting like you are so virtuous. You don't care about any of that censorship crap. All you care about is being able to ***** about something Trump is doing, has done, or may get away with. You are an internet troll, a liberal crybaby and a little *****. By ***** I mean dog. I know how thin your skin is and too much truth will have you bleeding out.

Are you just here to troll, or to discuss and debate the topic at hand?

Unless you want to provide something of value and relevance to what we are talking about, then you are just a troll. And yet you accuse me of being a troll when I argue and debate using facts and logic.

If you countersue and win, then the site owners would still be part of the liability if Section 230 went away. You know how the house always wins in casino gaming? Well, the site owners would always lose in a lawsuit like that. They would be liable on either side of that coin.

But your chess game is weak. If I were to sue, I would have a case against you. You would have none against me.
You're a smart guy, so I'm sure you need no explanation WHY. Or, you can just Google it if you do.

Rob doesn't even admit or know he himself is pushing a narrative. To him this is just how everyone should feel about Trump. He literally ask everyone WHY about everything and demands facts and proof and never once questions himself as to why. Why he doesn't critique the left. Doesn't ask how amazingly all the liberal news outlets parrot the same things word for word when bashing Trump. When the Truth come out that proves Trump right, Rob doesn't accept it... he makes excuses and continues to back his party. Trump lies!!!! So he hates him. When his party is proved to have lied... nothing to see here, must be a mistake, the right is just pushing hate speech. Anything other than admitting they fucked up.

Rob has no legs to stand on to be judging anyone.

Just one big paragraph of whining. Who GIVES a **** what the "liberal news outlets" do or why they report the same shit? Is your brain so weak that you just have to believe whatever a talking head says, and not apply critical thinking or due diligence?
Maybe that's why memes work so well with right-wingers. They are brief, they say what you want to hear. They have pictures.

You judge endlessly here. You just did so in the above post.
What legs do YOU have to be standing on?

It wasn't a "misstatement"...watch the interview...he was pushing a narrative...

It was false or inaccurate. If it was a prewritten and fact-checked, they would have flagged it, just like the talking heads that are forced to say "alleged" even when they have video of someone committing an illegal act.

He could easily have pushed the "narrative" by stating it properly. Instead he gave false info, and got retroactively censored with a $15M arbitration settlement.
Kind of like when Fox was continuously pushing the false and inaccurate info about Dominion. Had they fact-checked and not pushed the "narrative", they would have saved the $787M when the got sued.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

If it was a prewritten and fact-checked

So you're blaming his producer....

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Censoring would have turned them INTO a publisher. To avoid that liability, they would have to avoid censoring, but then they open themselves tot he legal ramifications of a wild-west where people post obscene or illegal material, and the site gets whacked for allowing it.
Catch-22

Trump's attempted repeal of 230 would simply have made the sites liable. And he did it because he was butthurt that they fact-checked and called out his tweets that were bullshit. He felt it was unfair of them to point out that he lied.
He literally says so in his Executive Order: https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.go...executive-order-preventing-online-censorship/

"Preventing Online Censorship", while attempting to force it in order for site owners to avoid liability for what got posted.

I'll ask the Mod to join in if they are reading the thread: If the owners of this forum could be held liable for stuff that was posted here (the law doesn't care about a "we are not responsible" disclaimer), how careful would they be about what posts make it to the pages?
How quickly would they take down posts that could result in them being held liable for what any of us said?

And Spokey, your talk about Stephanopoulos actually supports the whole censorship thing. If you read carefully, they arbitrated a settlement because George made a misstatement of fact. He stated Trump was found liable for ****. That did not occur. Had his oratory (in this case we'll call it a "post") been fact-checked, it would have been censored for being technically incorrect.
Instead, ABC settles an arbitration against them for $15M.

Imagine I sue for the libelous/slanderous/defamatory/etc. things that ThxOne has said about me here.
Do you think the owners of this site should have to pay up for allowing him to do so?

Repealing Section 230 would allow for it.
Good deal?

Repealing Section 230 is not a good solution, but if these platforms are going to act as editors & censors, then they should be treated as publishers. I guess these platforms can lobby for legislation that allows them censor without the responsibility of a publisher, which is the direction I think we'll eventually go in. OTOH, they could just be honest and put in the user agreement that they censor and suppress conservative/right wing content.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Repealing Section 230 is not a good solution, but if these platforms are going to act as editors & censors, then they should be treated as publishers. I guess these platforms can lobby for legislation that allows them censor without the responsibility of a publisher, which is the direction I think we'll eventually go in. OTOH, they could just be honest and put in the user agreement that they censor and suppress conservative/right wing content.

It's really the feds fault, more than the CEOs. Our federal government forced them to do a lot of that stuff, which is definitely who people should be mad about because that is purely unconstitutional. To have the federal government sensor true material off social media, at the behalf of the Biden administration and really the deep state as a whole is dystopian. That's really like a nightmare movie and it'll get really bad if people don't stand up against it; it'll become deadly.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

It's really the feds fault, more than the CEOs. Our federal government forced them to do a lot of that stuff, which is definitely who people should be mad about because that is purely unconstitutional. To have the federal government sensor true material off social media, at the behalf of the Biden administration and really the deep state as a whole is dystopian. That's really like a nightmare movie and it'll get really bad if people don't stand up against it; it'll become deadly.

Agreed. Gov't involvement adds another layer of shyt to this shyt sandwich. However, IMHO, it's pretty clear many of these platforms lean left. I highly suspect if Trump wanted them to either censor or boost certain narratives, the Tech platforms would have raised hell, gone to court, invoked the US Constitution, etc.

 

[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

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[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Multiple Drone Incursions Reported Over Marine Corps Base Camp Pendleton

This is the first Marine Corps facility to acknowledge drone incursions during the recent wave of sightings at bases across the country.

www.twz.com

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Agreed. Gov't involvement adds another layer of shyt to this shyt sandwich. However, IMHO, it's pretty clear many of these platforms lean left. I highly suspect if Trump wanted them to either censor or boost certain narratives, the Tech platforms would have raised hell, gone to court, invoked the US Constitution, etc.

A lot of big tech people lean left, such as the left hand black magic path of Lucifer, manifesting the entity of ai as their dark savior, their Christ-like figure that will cure all ailing by removing humanity from humans

Left-hand path and right-hand path - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Are you just here to troll, or to discuss and debate the topic at hand?

Unless you want to provide something of value and relevance to what we are talking about, then you are just a troll. And yet you accuse me of being a troll when I argue and debate using facts and logic.

I could not care less if you think I add value or relevance to ANYTHING we are talking about on this forum. I call you a troll because that is what you are doing here. Other people will be having a wonderful discussion between themselves and you will see something that triggers you and you launch into your internet fact checker costume and begin trolling. Demanding people to back up their ******* opinions and answer to you as if you are in charge of anything.

If you countersue and win, then the site owners would still be part of the liability if Section 230 went away. You know how the house always wins in casino gaming? Well, the site owners would always lose in a lawsuit like that. They would be liable on either side of that coin.

But your chess game is weak. If I were to sue, I would have a case against you. You would have none against me.
You're a smart guy, so I'm sure you need no explanation WHY. Or, you can just Google it if you do.

You forgot my Trump card you smelly ****. I don't give a ****. Prove that my words damaged you in some way. If my words can damage you then yours should be able to damage me but guess what, they can't. They are ******* words. If they can't hurt me then they can't hurt you. Unless you admit you are mentally defective in some way like how people are when they have a penis, call themselves "they" and chop off their Johnson Rod thinking it makes them a fuckable woman. Are you mentally defective? Are you Rob?

Just one big paragraph of whining. Who GIVES a **** what the "liberal news outlets" do or why they report the same shit? Is your brain so weak that you just have to believe whatever a talking head says, and not apply critical thinking or due diligence?
Maybe that's why memes work so well with right-wingers. They are brief, they say what you want to hear. They have pictures.

YOU give a **** what liberal outlets say. You have repeated the same talking points on this very website. Stop acting like you are clueless.

You judge endlessly here. You just did so in the above post.
What legs do YOU have to be standing on?

You talk shit, I will talk shit. You think you are above everyone standing behind your pulpit as you talk down to everyone but out in the real world, around other people... you are a coward.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

when I argue and debate using facts and logic

Is that why you FEEL Trump committed **** and you FEEL he lied 30k times?

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5044669-biden-congressional-stock-trading-ban/

This might be the only time I'm rooting for biden...

But I'm sure nothing will come of it...

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Is that why you FEEL Trump committed **** and you FEEL he lied 30k times?

Did you read any of those 30K "lies"? I read several of them. Didn't take long to discover that what the left were calling lies weren't actually lies. It was literally someone voicing an opinion or speaking about what they would like to do. It was pretty obvious they were labeling most things as lies just to have something to tell their viewers. Ratings are a ***** to get I guess.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Did you read any of those 30K "lies"? I read several of them. Didn't take long to discover that what the left were calling lies weren't actually lies. It was literally someone voicing an opinion or speaking about what they would like to do. It was pretty obvious they were labeling most things as lies just to have something to tell their viewers. Ratings are a ***** to get I guess.

Yeah I read through a bunch...most looked like opinion rather than fact

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I could not care less if you think I add value or relevance to ANYTHING we are talking about on this forum. I call you a troll because that is what you are doing here.

So you just comment in order to be a troll. Got it.

You forgot my Trump card you smelly ****. I don't give a ****. Prove that my words damaged you in some way. If my words can damage you then yours should be able to damage me but guess what, they can't. They are ******* words. If they can't hurt me then they can't hurt you. Unless you admit you are mentally defective in some way like how people are when they have a penis, call themselves "they" and chop off their Johnson Rod thinking it makes them a fuckable woman. Are you mentally defective? Are you Rob?

They are libelous, slanderous, and defamatory. Proof would be easy. Ask Spokey. He's using an example of a $15M arbitration settlement between Trump and ABC because the words George S. spoke hurt him.

I guess Trump is mentally defective for filing suit for being hurt by words, huh?
So you elected a mentally defective person into office. Willingly.
Got it.

YOU give a **** what liberal outlets say. You have repeated the same talking points on this very website. Stop acting like you are clueless.

Simply repetition without due diligence to back up anything I repeat?
No, I leave that up to you, like your repetition of Trump's claim about import tariffs. No due diligence, no critical thinking. You simply repeat his incorrect and inaccurate talking point.

You talk shit, I will talk shit. You think you are above everyone standing behind your pulpit as you talk down to everyone but out in the real world, around other people... you are a coward.

So you want to talk shit, but then whine and complain if I do the same? Interesting.
A coward is a man who hits women to show them he is powerful. You.

So you're blaming his producer....

How would I know who allowed him to speak extemporaneously on the network?
The blame would be placed on whoever allows it. Kind of like the CEO gets the blame for poor sales, even when it's the sales team that failed. Shit rolls uphill.

Is that why you FEEL Trump committed **** and you FEEL he lied 30k times?

My beliefs and opinions have absolutely ZERO effect on the words Trump has spoken that are on record in MANY formats (not just organized into a searchable database), nor on the judge's decision in the case E. Jean CARROLL, Plaintiff, v. Donald J. TRUMP, Defendant. 22-cv-10016

What is with you and that other wingnut thinking that your opinions, beliefs, or feelings change reality in some way? Do you really think those things in your mind are enough to change reality?
If you do, you give yourself WAY too much credit.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Yeah I read through a bunch...most looked like opinion rather than fact

Exactly. I wonder why there is a difference in comprehension. I do know that if the left took these "lies" for what they really are and not what they were told they are, they sure would be less closed minded.