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[ThxOne Premium Member]

You're off on another tangent that has no relevance to the questions.

Why is it so difficult for you, Spokey, et al to stick to the point being argued, and speak specifically to that point?

You might as well argue about the color shirt the final assembler was wearing as a reason to determine a gun an "assault rifle".

So help Spokey out, and explain how the Republicans had nothing to do with Roe v Wade being overturned.
Additionally, explain how denying a pregnant woman the right to an abortion is not in effect forcing her to procreate.

You basically just argued that almost no rights should exist, especially the right to bear arms.
Might want to retract that attempt.

I'm working with the definition of procreation YOU provided.
Do you now want to retract it and say it's an incorrect definition?

The definition of procreation you gave us can include the concept of conception, but does not have to.
Gestation and birth alone are procreation.
So by denying a pregnant woman the right to an abortion, she is being forced to gestate and give birth.
By the very definition of the word, she is being forced to procreate.

Here you go again, discounting any and every response to your question.

SHE HAS NO "RIGHT" TO AN ABORTION. You can't force anyone to use their learned skills.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Rob backed himself into a corner again...now he's just spinning...thinking he's "right" once again

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Rob backed himself into a corner again...now he's just spinning...thinking he's "right" once again

He is trying to intimate that because someone has a skill that others have a right to it.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

He is trying to intimate that because someone has a skill that others have a right to it.

I'm sure he's heard "forced procreation by the Republicans" almost non-stop from npr, msnbc, cnn...you know his party's approved public dissemination sources

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I'm sure he's heard "forced procreation by the Republicans" almost non-stop from npr, msnbc, cnn...you know his party's approved public dissemination sources

No doubt in my mind.

 

[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Here you go again, discounting any and every response to your question.

SHE HAS NO "RIGHT" TO AN ABORTION. You can't force anyone to use their learned skills.

YOU argued that abortion is not a right because someone has to learn how to give one.
By YOUR logic, the right to bear arms is not a right because someone has to learn how to make a gun, the cartridge, the billet, the gunpowder, etc.
You have no "right" to carry the gun that someone else had the skill to make.
YOUR argument.
And a pretty stupid one.

You are also bringing **** into the argument of a pregnant woman being denied the right to an abortion, and thus being forced to procreate.
Your **** tangent has no relevance.
Neither does your argument about the choice to have ***, or regrets, or anything else you brought up.

It's really interesting how you guys argue by presenting as many logical fallacies as possible, while avoiding the real topic.

I'm sure he's heard "forced procreation by the Republicans" almost non-stop from npr, msnbc, cnn...you know his party's approved public dissemination sources

Yet another meaningless tangent while you avoid answering two simple questions.
You know them by now: How were the Republicans not involved in Roe v Wade being overturned?
How is denying an abortion to a pregnant woman not forcing her to procreate?

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Yet another meaningless tangent while you avoid answering two simple questions.
You know them by now: How were the Republicans not involved in Roe v Wade being overturned?
How is denying an abortion to a pregnant woman not forcing her to procreate?

Be honest for once Rob...don't hide the full definition of word just to fit your narrative ffs...

And even by your trimmed definition...it encompasses the whole process...see that word production?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

YOU argued that abortion is not a right because someone has to learn how to give one.
By YOUR logic, the right to bear arms is not a right because someone has to learn how to make a gun, the cartridge, the billet, the gunpowder, etc.
You have no "right" to carry the gun that someone else had the skill to make.
YOUR argument.
And a pretty stupid one.

You are also bringing **** into the argument of a pregnant woman being denied the right to an abortion, and thus being forced to procreate.
Your **** tangent has no relevance.
Neither does your argument about the choice to have ***, or regrets, or anything else you brought up.

It's really interesting how you guys argue by presenting as many logical fallacies as possible, while avoiding the real topic.

Yet another meaningless tangent while you avoid answering two simple questions.
You know them by now: How were the Republicans not involved in Roe v Wade being overturned?
How is denying an abortion to a pregnant woman not forcing her to procreate?

Things are not meaningless because you deny them Rob.

The right to bear arms is the right to defend ones self. I can teach myself to build a gun. How are you going to give an abortion to ones self? Exactly, shut up.

Again, she can plan ahead. Move to a place where abortion is legal. Learn to defend herself. Carry a firearm.

Meaningless tangent? Relevant points of view Rob so stop trying to ignore them because of your agenda.

Answer to question #1: Republicans helped overturn Roe vs Wade. So? Good, abortion is not a right.

Answer to question #2: Because she made the choice to get pregnant in a place where it is illegal.

Why do you care anyway, you can't get pregnant. You are allegedly a man arguing about abortion. The only reason you have for doing so is because you hate Republicans. If Democrats overturned it you would be all on board... like the follower you are.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Russian weatherman: Conditions 'ideal' for nuclear strike on NATO

Russian President Vladimir Putin told Western countries late February at the annual State of the Union Address that they risked provoking a nuclear war if they sent troops to fight in Ukraine.

m.jpost.com

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Intentionally failing our economy so they can come in with the solution to run our lives. Gov will have to step in at some point and save people somehow but with spider web strings attached, until you're wrapped in a cocoon, being dissolved from the inside out:

'Buy now, pay later' goes from niche to normal as young people use it for daily essentials

What began for many as a way to pay for concert tickets and vacations is becoming an ordinary tool that Gen Z and millennial shoppers use for food, contact lenses and trash bags.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Just another nation completely falling apart, nothing to see here:

US 'could deploy elite Marine squad' to fight Haiti gangs and control chaos

Plans for the US to deploy 'elite Marine squads' were prompted by a chief staffer but White House representatives knocked back any plans to send military personnel to Haiti

www.dailystar.co.uk

Red Sea Turkey Shoot: Allied Warships Down Dozens Of Drones Within Hours

Allied warships and aircraft repulsed a mass drone attack in the Red Sea, but it's still an ominous sign that the Houthis aren't backing down.

www.twz.com

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Please forgive me for trying to balance out Rob’s idiocy with actual relevant info lol

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

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Be honest for once Rob...don't hide the full definition of word just to fit your narrative ffs...

And even by your trimmed definition...it encompasses the whole process...see that word production?

I don't get the relevance of the myriad of definitions. Clearly, if we're discussing abortion, then the procreation we're talking about starts at conception and ends at birth unless interrupted. Yet again, the discussion becomes one of dissecting the language.