Current events discussion

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Don't make sh!t up...show me where I said that...

You are correct and I apologize. It was that meme guy. You jumped in at just the right turn of the page.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

You're all over the place in trying to say I did things I didn't do.

Let's simplify.
1. I never denied Biden had classified documents. You falsely accused me of that.
2. I never declared it means I am "OK" with something when I admit that something happens or has happened. Both you and Thx have falsely accused me of that.

My statement is and has been you will say Trump should go to jail for "breaking a law" but you would have no problem giving Joe a pass for breaking the same law.

3. I don't consider Trump's actions and Biden's actions to be the same, any more than I consider someone driving their car into a crowd on purpose to be the same as someone losing control of their car and running it into a crowd.

Are you saying somehow Biden lost control when he took documents home? Leaving them next to his Vette? Unsecured? So he should get a pass because you think he lost control? If he has no control over his actions why on earth are you cool with him running the country????

4. I don't take the position that my beliefs or opinions somehow change facts or alter reality. The reality that Biden and Trump did VERY different things with regard to classified documents will not change no matter how hard any of us opine otherwise.

Trump had Documents - secured
Biden had documents - unsecured

Yes, very different.

 

[YourNameHere 10+ year member]

Trump obtained/stashed documents while President

Biden obtained/stashed documents while VP

Anyone want to research which position is/was legally allowed to do that and the process involved? Let me know what you find....

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Because we should all be able to laugh with each other.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

My statement is and has been you will say Trump should go to jail for "breaking a law" but you would have no problem giving Joe a pass for breaking the same law.

As I have said before: Just because you believe something, that does not make it a truth or a fact. We have seen you do it plenty. If they prosecuted and convicted Joe for doing it, then that is the process.

Are you saying somehow Biden lost control when he took documents home? Leaving them next to his Vette? Unsecured? So he should get a pass because you think he lost control? If he has no control over his actions why on earth are you cool with him running the country????

Are you somehow thinking that Biden's house is a deed-restricted private club where people come and go as they please?

Trump had Documents - secured

Oh? They were in boxes in a bathroom at a club with a membership of 500, plus their guests, plus the staff that works there, plus the guests of the Trump family.

Biden had documents - unsecured

More secure than the documents Trump had, AND when they were discovered, the WH was notified and the documents immediately turned over.
Tell us all that Trump did the same thing with the documents he had, and that it didn't take him EIGHT months to return SOME of them after the Nat'l Archives demanded them, that he didn't refuse to return the rest, that he didn't give access to people without security clearance to see them, and that they were not returned until the FBI had to go in and seize them from Mara Lago.
This will be a good fairy tale.

Yes, very different.

No sh*t.
But some people think they are the same situation. Apologists and sycophants.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I think there are idiots everywhere. Certainly easier to find them with the explosion of social media and the world getting a lot "smaller" through technology over the centuries, though.

 

[YourNameHere 10+ year member]

Trump obtained/stashed documents while President

Biden obtained/stashed documents while VP

Anyone want to research which position is/was legally allowed to do that and the process involved? Let me know what you find....

Curious what your opinion is @RobGMN

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

As I have said before: Just because you believe something, that does not make it a truth or a fact. We have seen you do it plenty. If they prosecuted and convicted Joe for doing it, then that is the process.

And you would still give him a pass.

Are you somehow thinking that Biden's house is a deed-restricted private club where people come and go as they please?

Not at all but much easier to gain access too.

Oh? They were in boxes in a bathroom at a club with a membership of 500, plus their guests, plus the staff that works there, plus the guests of the Trump family.
View attachment 56531

Those are boxes in a restroom.

More secure than the documents Trump had, AND when they were discovered, the WH was notified and the documents immediately turned over.
Tell us all that Trump did the same thing with the documents he had, and that it didn't take him EIGHT months to return SOME of them after the Nat'l Archives demanded them, that he didn't refuse to return the rest, that he didn't give access to people without security clearance to see them, and that they were not returned until the FBI had to go in and seize them from Mara Lago.
This will be a good fairy tale.

Tell us how you just walk into Mar-a-lago.

No sh*t.
But some people think they are the same situation. Apologists and sycophants.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

And you would still give him a pass.

I am not on the jury. If I was, I would make my decision once the process is done.

Not at all but much easier to gain access too.

An interesting statement. Can you explain why you believe this?
I'll explain MY theory: Mara Lago is a private club of 500 members, guests, friends. The docs were in a bathroom. In direct sightline of a windos. A small one, so possibly a staff bathroom. A utilized one, given the fresh towels on the counter. There is no indication of any special security measures. Trump admitted to showing the docs to people, and had his personal aides moving them around.
Biden's docs were in his garage of his personal home, next to his Corvette. PRIVATE home. As POTUS, you know that his PRIVATE home is going to be secured physically by alarms, surveillance, and possibly a security detail keeping an eye on it. I am NOT going to try and research that for obvious reasons, but if Joe Citizen can have alarms, surveillance, and even armed guard response (a company I used to work for provided all three services to Joe Citizens in our area), then you can be sure Joe President has it.

Those are boxes in a restroom.

Yes. That is an evidence photo of the classified documents in boxes in a bathroom at Mara Lago. It has been confirmed there were classified docs in those boxes you see in the picture, taken in the Mara Lago bathroom. Let's p[lease not go down a silly rabbit hole of "they could be boxes of toilet paper", or some other nonsense. We are long past that.

Tell us how you just walk into Mar-a-lago.

As one of the 500 members plus their immediate family, you walk (drive, really) in. As a guest of one of the 500 members or their immediate family, you drive in with them.
As one of the 150-or-so staff, you probably get shuttled in?

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

I would make my decision once the process is done

Nope.. you claimed Trump's guilt long before all the facts came out...

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

LOL

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Nope.. you claimed Trump's guilt long before all the facts came out...

I am interested if you can point out where that happened.
Post # would be a reasonable ask.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Interesting....

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