Who is really responsible for inflation?

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

The fed is part of the government. They are supposed to be independently governed. They weren't.

So board of the fed were all ultra-maga Jan 6 insurrectionists that follow Trump blindly?

 

[HardofWhoring]

So board of the fed were all ultra-maga Jan 6 insurrectionists that follow Trump blindly?

???
You too.

You're the one that just created your own conspiracy. I was very detailed and clear on why and how, and you're just going off the deep end, and creating your own storyline.

If you thought you had a good point to make, you would stick with the truth to make it. You aren't even trying to have an honest conversation.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

No I don't agree with that. Do you agree that the republicans were worse about doing THAT when obama and biden were president?

Listen, I don't want to get in a pissing contest but at no time during the Obama administration did I see or hear Republicans telling people to get in Democrats faces if they see them out in public. I didn't see or hear of Republicans getting physical with Democrats because they supported Obama. I didn't see or hear news channels constantly talking trash about Obama. The only issue seemed to be with what people were calling Obamacare.

It's funny how the left seems to think Democrats are better than Republicans at everything except the bad things they both do. Somehow the left lets the right win at that one.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

You're the one that just created your own conspiracy. I was very detailed and clear on why and how, and you're just going off the deep end, and creating your own storyline.

IIRC the Fed is responsible for 9x the money supply expansion as the US gov't. The only way your little scenario plays out is if the Fed was really under the control of Trump, which is the stuff of conspiracy theories. Since "Fed doctrine" has been pretty much the same since the great recession when Obama was in office, was Trump running some sort of shadow gov't back then? Or did Trump just seize control of the Fed when he took office? And if Trump was in control of the Fed when he took office why did the Fed keep raising rates against his public protest; was that some sort of psych op by Trump and the Fed to make it look Trump wasn't in control of the Fed, when in reality he did control the Fed? Inquiring minds want to know.

This is exactly what I claimed it, just a narrative to make Trump look bad with no grounding in reality. How is it that so many people have become delusional? Trump is the victim either a deep state or global conspiracy or both. Trump is secretly running the Fed. The election was stolen and the next one will be too. The Ukrain war is either a massive money laundering scheme or a cover up of a massive money laundering scheme. Biden tapping into the SPR was the center of some sort of conspiracy to puck the US, but I can't remember how that conspiracy worked. Clintons at the heart of a child *** trafficking ring and on and on and on... Absolutely amazing.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

So board of the fed were all ultra-maga Jan 6 insurrectionists that follow Trump blindly?

I too would like a break down of this conspiracy. If the Fed was actually operating under Trump's direction, that makes Jan 6th look like child's play. And furthermore, since central banks worldwide followed the Fed's inflationary blueprint, was Trump actually in control of "all" central banking and therefore actually controlling not just US money supply but global money supply?

Another question that comes to mind is, is the Orange Fella still in control of either the Fed or the global central banking system? Afterall the Fed didn't change policy direction when Trump lost the election; was Trump trying to insure Biden would face rampant inflation by directing the Fed to keep expanding the money supply. Furthermore, if the Fed is still under Big Orange's control, is the Fed ratcheting up interest rates in an effort to undermine the "Biden Economy" and get Trump back in office? I'm a little curious about when this take over occurred. Keep in mind this massive money supply expansion started in '09. What was happening in '09 - the mortgage meltdown and the collapse of Real Estate prices and Big Orange is heavily invested in Real Estate. So the case can be made that Trump has been running a shadow gov't since at least '09. You can go even further back and trace questionable Fed, SEC, FHA, HUD, et al policies that lead up to the Real Estate bubble back to the late 90s/early 2000s, which begs the question, how long has Trump been in control of the Fed and was this illegal control limited to just the Fed? Perhaps Trump isn't the political neophyte he pretends to be and maybe he's even dirtier than Washington insiders he rails against.

 

[HardofWhoring]

IIRC the Fed is responsible for 9x the money supply expansion as the US gov't. The only way your little scenario plays out is if the Fed was really under the control of Trump, which is the stuff of conspiracy theories. Since "Fed doctrine" has been pretty much the same since the great recession when Obama was in office, was Trump running some sort of shadow gov't back then? Or did Trump just seize control of the Fed when he took office? And if Trump was in control of the Fed when he took office why did the Fed keep raising rates against his public protest; was that some sort of psych op by Trump and the Fed to make it look Trump wasn't in control of the Fed, when in reality he did control the Fed? Inquiring minds want to know.

This is exactly what I claimed it, just a narrative to make Trump look bad with no grounding in reality. How is it that so many people have become delusional? Trump is the victim either a deep state or global conspiracy or both. Trump is secretly running the Fed. The election was stolen and the next one will be too. The Ukrain war is either a massive money laundering scheme or a cover up of a massive money laundering scheme. Biden tapping into the SPR was the center of some sort of conspiracy to puck the US, but I can't remember how that conspiracy worked. Clintons at the heart of a child *** trafficking ring and on and on and on... Absolutely amazing.

No. None of this nonsense is what I said, or applies to it. I said one very specific thing, which you do not acknowledge.
You only try to twist it into some wild conspiracy, just like the rest of the nonsense you tried to throw in, and deflect to in your second paragraph.

 

[HardofWhoring]

Listen, I don't want to get in a pissing contest but at no time during the Obama administration did I see or hear Republicans telling people to get in Democrats faces if they see them out in public. I didn't see or hear of Republicans getting physical with Democrats because they supported Obama. I didn't see or hear news channels constantly talking trash about Obama. The only issue seemed to be with what people were calling Obamacare.

It's funny how the left seems to think Democrats are better than Republicans at everything except the bad things they both do. Somehow the left lets the right win at that one.

You're changing the subject/deflecting. This isn't what I was responding to.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

No. None of this nonsense is what I said, or applies to it. I said one very specific thing, which you do not acknowledge.
You only try to twist it into some wild conspiracy, just like the rest of the nonsense you tried to throw in, and deflect to in your second paragraph.

You said Trump was controlling the Fed. I guess you think you can just make baseless claims with no proof and not be challenged. So how did Trump take control of the Fed, when did he take control of the Fed, when/has he given up control of the Fed? Additionally, since Fed policy didn't change when Big Orange left office, does that mean Biden seized control of the Fed and continue Trump's inflationary monetary policies?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

No I don't agree with that. Do you agree that the republicans were worse about doing THAT when obama and biden were president?

This what you asked. Then I made my post in response to it. I did not change any subject or deflect. Are you here just to bash Trump and Republicans?

 

[HardofWhoring]

This what you asked. Then I made my post in response to it. I did not change any subject or deflect. Are you here just to bash Trump and Republicans?

I didn't do that, quote where I did. That was you that was ignorantly bashing a party.

Do you not acknowledge that during Trump's 4 years almost ALL democrats were actively working AGAINST the president of the united states? Do you think that employees should be able to act however they like towards or against their boss without consequences like being fired?

Can I ask you this? Do you think "Time Blindness" is real?

Listen, I don't want to get in a pissing contest but at no time during the Obama administration did I see or hear Republicans telling people to get in Democrats faces if they see them out in public. I didn't see or hear of Republicans getting physical with Democrats because they supported Obama. I didn't see or hear news channels constantly talking trash about Obama. The only issue seemed to be with what people were calling Obamacare.

It's funny how the left seems to think Democrats are better than Republicans at everything except the bad things they both do. Somehow the left lets the right win at that one.

This is why I don't get into these stupid threads. This has been pointless, and you aren't even trying to have an honest conversation. You're just accusing me of the things you're doing.

 

[HardofWhoring]

You said Trump was controlling the Fed. I guess you think you can just make baseless claims with no proof and not be challenged. So how did Trump take control of the Fed, when did he take control of the Fed, when/has he given up control of the Fed? Additionally, since Fed policy didn't change when Big Orange left office, does that mean Biden seized control of the Fed and continue Trump's inflationary monetary policies?

Nope. Not sure how many times I need to say it. I've written it out clearly. I don't think you're willing to have an honest conversation.

 

[HardofWhoring]

Do you not acknowledge that during Trump's 4 years almost ALL democrats were actively working AGAINST the president of the united states? Do you think that employees should be able to act however they like towards or against their boss without consequences like being fired?

Can I ask you this? Do you think "Time Blindness" is real?

P.S. You mean when the republicans controlled the House and the Senate?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I didn't do that, quote where I did. That was you that was ignorantly bashing a party.




This is why I don't get into these stupid threads. This has been pointless, and you aren't even trying to have an honest conversation. You're just accusing me of the things you're doing.

I stated verifiable facts.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

P.S. You mean when the republicans controlled the House and the Senate?

I mean when Trump was president.


So... time blindness... real?

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Nope. Not sure how many times I need to say it. I've written it out clearly. I don't think you're willing to have an honest conversation.

I don't blame you. You made an assertion that you can't possibly prove; time to pull the rip cord.