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Buck
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little alien on campus
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Buck
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Buck
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little alien on campus
Orly?
“By April 2022, the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) data show that about 6 in 10 adults dying of COVID-19 were vaccinated or boosted, and that’s remained true through at least August 2022 (the most recent month of data).”
I really wanna know how many of these people died in this 2 week “partially vaccinated” status. It’s absurd how statistics are manipulated; this is straight up fraud, because someone can get their covid shot, die from either covid or the shot, and statistics say they are either unvaccinated or partially vaccinated, even if they just received their most up to date shot:
“In order to be counted as vaccinated, a person must be at least two weeks out from completing their primary series before testing positive (for example, at least 14 days after completing two doses of the mRNA vaccine). Similarly, to be counted as having a booster, a person must be at least two weeks out from their booster or additional dose before testing positive. People who were partially vaccinated are not included in this data.”
B-b-b-bioweapon:
“However, the rising share of the population that is vaccinated is only part of the story and does not seem to explain all of the rise in the share of deaths that are among vaccinated people over the last year. That’s because vaccination rates have grown only slightly during that period, yet the share of people dying who were vaccinated has risen more steeply (as shown in the chart above).”
Why Do Vaccinated People Represent Most COVID-19 Deaths Right Now? | KFF
This post explores why the share of COVID-19 deaths among those who are vaccinated has risen, Factors include a rising share of the population that is vaccinated, waning immune protection and low uptake of boosters, and changes in immunity among the unvaccinated.
www.kff.org
Yes, I know how the article frames it; don’t care.
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djdilliodon!
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And that is totally fine. Everyone is free to believe in whatever they want. I have no problem with that.
We did get a bit commie with the mask stuff, mandates, disinformation police etc. The good news it’s over and I’m willing to bet if another pandemic came along no one would tolerate that stuff again. Of course if China made something actually super deadly but they can’t make anything right
The “commie” part is an unfortunate side effect of dealing with idiots who are more than happy to be part of society when it benefits them, but are also more than happy to say “fvck everyone but me”.And that is totally fine. Everyone is free to believe in whatever they want. I have no problem with that.
We did get a bit commie with the mask stuff, mandates, disinformation police etc. The good news it’s over and I’m willing to bet if another pandemic came along no one would tolerate that stuff again. Of course if China made something actually super deadly but they can’t make anything right
Creation of laws to force people to act in favor of the public good is a necessity, sadly. There are members of even this small group who are proof of it.
The stats the CDC has say the vaccine is effective, as are the boosters: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/wr/mm7206a3.htm?s_cid=mm7206a3_xOrly?
“By April 2022, the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) data show that about 6 in 10 adults dying of COVID-19 were vaccinated or boosted, and that’s remained true through at least August 2022 (the most recent month of data).”
I really wanna know how many of these people died in this 2 week “partially vaccinated” status. It’s absurd how statistics are manipulated; this is straight up fraud, because someone can get their covid shot, die from either covid or the shot, and statistics say they are either unvaccinated or partially vaccinated, even if they just received their most up to date shot:
“In order to be counted as vaccinated, a person must be at least two weeks out from completing their primary series before testing positive (for example, at least 14 days after completing two doses of the mRNA vaccine). Similarly, to be counted as having a booster, a person must be at least two weeks out from their booster or additional dose before testing positive. People who were partially vaccinated are not included in this data.”
B-b-b-bioweapon:
“However, the rising share of the population that is vaccinated is only part of the story and does not seem to explain all of the rise in the share of deaths that are among vaccinated people over the last year. That’s because vaccination rates have grown only slightly during that period, yet the share of people dying who were vaccinated has risen more steeply (as shown in the chart above).”
Why Do Vaccinated People Represent Most COVID-19 Deaths Right Now? | KFF
This post explores why the share of COVID-19 deaths among those who are vaccinated has risen, Factors include a rising share of the population that is vaccinated, waning immune protection and low uptake of boosters, and changes in immunity among the unvaccinated.
Yes, I know how the article frames it; don’t care.
“The bivalent COVID-19 vaccine booster—which was first recommended last fall—protected against infection and death during the circulation of BA.4 and BA.5 Omicron subvariants. In fact, people who received the updated COVID-19 bivalent booster were 14 times less likely to die compared with those who received no vaccine. They were also three times less likely to die compared with those who received only the primary series of COVID-19 vaccines, according to a report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).”
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Buck
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little alien on campus
Hey, you f*cking useful idiot, this was done for the “public good”:
“In democratic societies, the needs of public health sometimes require citizens to make sacrifices for the greater good, but in Nazi Germany, national or public health — Volksgesundheit — took complete precedence over individual health care. Physicians and medically trained academics, many of whom were proponents of “racial hygiene,” or eugenics, legitimized and helped to implement Nazi poli- cies aiming to “cleanse” German society of people viewed as biologic threats to the nation’s health. Racial-hygiene measures began with the mass ster- ilization of the “genetically diseased” and ended with the near-annihilation of European Jewry.”
The USA is entirely based on individual freedom. You’re sounding a lot like a Nazi, there. You can take your socialistic garbage and shove it up your anus.
And, fyi the people who made sars-cov-2 are responsible for the people who die from covid, not the unvaccinated. We never hear you blame the Chinese or Americans who funded the research to make this virus, have we?
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No, it actually wasn’t. Anyone with an ounce of brainpower knew it was not for the common good.
Maybe people like YOU would just have gone along with it lock-step like you do for Trump, but people with a clue did not.
djdilliodon!
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And all that commie stuff did nada
. Made everything worse from the economy, kids education, people’s mental health, and the list goes on. Old or have series health conditions? It’s YOUR responsibility not anyone else’s to take steps to protect yourself. The majority of the people in this country didn’t want what was happening. Now something that is on a level of catastrophic, you won’t need commie rules, we all would come together id think. Like say if Russia started nuking us or if China made a virus that had a 50+% death rate that was just as contagious as covid, I think we all would come together and do what we need to.
ThxOne
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Actually you both have. Both of you keep siting statistics and claiming that people fair better because they got the vaccine. A statistic is not a medical procedure or test so explain how the statistics prove a vaccine caused, prevented or diagnosed an action or illness. Neither you or Rob or the statistical analyst can prove the vaccine stopped anyone from getting anything. All you can show is they took a vaccine. The vaccine didn't cure COVID, stop the transmission of COVID, prevent the catching of COVID. So to say you have or anyone has statistical proof that the vaccine prevented anything is useless for anything other than talking points.
ThxOne
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Learn what a statistic is. Since you ignored the actual definition I gave you from the Oxford learners dictionary, you go find a definition you think is credible. Stop trying to tell people that stats prove vaccine efficacy when a stat is not medical anything.
The statistics are data gathered from what actually happened In both control testing and real-world activity. Just like the flipping of a coin 1000 times. Do you really have no clue what statistics are and what they mean?
You keep insisting the statistics provide no legitimate information concerning vaccination efficacy, and have no value whatsoever. Once again, I’ll ask you to put your money where your mouth is let’s make a $1000 wager the money can go in escrow.
Do you really believe in your own words? Do you have the guts to bet money on your opinions? Let’s do it. $1000.
Buck
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little alien on campus
Peer-reviewed 
“Linear regression analyses of neonatal vaccine doses required by nations in our 2021 dataset yielded statistically significant positive correlations to rates of neonatal mortality (r = 0.34, p = .017), infant mortality (r = 0.46, p = .0008), and under age five mortality (r = 0.48, p = .0004). Similar results were reported using 2019 data.”
“Conclusions
There are statistically significant positive correlations between mortality rates of developed nations and the number of early childhood vaccine doses that are routinely given. Further investigations of the hypotheses generated by this study are recommended to confirm that current vaccination schedules are achieving their intended objectives.”
www.cureus.com
Yeah, go give your kids all their vaccines, especially the emergency use only bivalent covid vaccines
“Linear regression analyses of neonatal vaccine doses required by nations in our 2021 dataset yielded statistically significant positive correlations to rates of neonatal mortality (r = 0.34, p = .017), infant mortality (r = 0.46, p = .0008), and under age five mortality (r = 0.48, p = .0004). Similar results were reported using 2019 data.”
“Conclusions
There are statistically significant positive correlations between mortality rates of developed nations and the number of early childhood vaccine doses that are routinely given. Further investigations of the hypotheses generated by this study are recommended to confirm that current vaccination schedules are achieving their intended objectives.”
Neonatal, Infant, and Under Age Five Vaccine Doses Routinely Given in Developed Nations and Their Association With Mortality Rates
Introduction In 2011, using 2009 data, we published a study demonstrating that among the most highly developed nations, those requiring the most vaccine doses for their infants tended to have the least favorable infant mortality rates (r = 0.70, p < .0001). Twelve years later, we replicated our...
www.cureus.com
Yeah, go give your kids all their vaccines, especially the emergency use only bivalent covid vaccines
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