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I say they probably should delay it until after the election. Then when he wins then can impeach him (again) and the Senate can hold another witness free trial and find him not guilty.

 
Here's one article. The published articles prior to this one. The anti-mask/lock down crowd went nuts over the CDC article. https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/10/20-0948_article

Within about 1 month (right at the beginning of the lock downs), CDC went from no mask, to mask, to cloth masks aren't very effective. Front line gov't workers weren't allowed to use cloth masks, they had to use surgical masks. Why were masks mandated - again much like the vaccine, masks aren't a magical barrier that stops the virus like a brick wall. When dealing with a virus that spreads at geometric growth rate, even a small reduction in the rate makes a huge difference generations down the road.
There was no evidence to support the forcing of mask wearing would stop covid. It’s so god damn absurd; masks were NEVER about protecting anyone’s health. Almost all of the masks people were recommended/forced to wear, including just covering your face with random cloth materials, none of that could ever have a chance in hell of protecting against an aerosolized virus. What a joke! Wearing a mask all day at work is also terrible for your health, for a few reasons, including bacteria sickness from moisture buildup on the masks and unsafe levels of co2 behind the masks that people were breathing back in all day long.

It was all an illegal operation to train people to be compliant to tyranny whenever tyranny says so. People shouldn’t lose their rationality under fear.

Same thing with social distancing, 6 foot rule was just the number they thought people would actually be willing to follow; it literally had nothing to do with health safety.

I mean, the gov made us bend over backwards to comply with the baseless, tyrannical health rules over covid, and they were all bullshit. Like I say, it’s just an exercise to train you to comply with illegal health orders. When people who were vaccinated didn’t have to wear masks, but people who weren’t vaccinated had to wear masks that didn’t protect them, that was purely a humiliation exercise to try and force compliance; it had absolutely nothing to do with protecting people.

Hope people don’t fall for it again!
 
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There was no evidence to support the forcing of mask wearing would stop covid. It’s so god damn absurd; masks were NEVER about protecting anyone’s health. Almost all of the masks people were recommended/forced to wear, including just covering your face with random cloth materials, none of that could ever have a chance in hell of protecting against an aerosolized virus. What a joke! Wearing a mask all day at work is also terrible for your health, for a few reasons, including bacteria sickness from moisture buildup on the masks and unsafe levels of co2 behind the masks that people were breathing back in all day long.

It was all an illegal operation to train people to be compliant to tyranny whenever tyranny says so. People shouldn’t lose their rationality under fear.

Same thing with social distancing, 6 foot rule was just the number they thought people would actually be willing to follow; it literally had nothing to do with health safety.

I mean, the gov made us bend over backwards to comply with the baseless, tyrannical health rules over covid, and they were all bullshit. Like I say, it’s just an exercise to train you to comply with illegal health orders. When people who were vaccinated didn’t have to wear masks, but people who weren’t vaccinated had to wear masks that didn’t protect them, that was purely a humiliation exercise to try and force compliance; it had absolutely nothing to do with protecting people.

Hope people don’t fall for it again!
CO2 doesn't build up behind a mask. If you can't breathe through a cloth mask you should be on oxygen or in the hospital. If masks led to dangerous levels of co2 buildup, then we'd have docs and nurses passing out all the time in surgery. I've had to wear real gas masks for hours - sucks, but I didn't pass out. How did all the cowboys who wore masks to filter out dust avoid passing out?

It wasn't baseless, I was getting my training straight from CDC & HHS at the time. As I've posted numerous times when dealing with a geometric growth equation, slowing the growth (spread) rate just slightly makes huge differences generations down the road. That's just 8-10th grade math. This is just like the vaccine, it wasn't a magic shield therefore it wasn't worthwhile. And 6ft wasn't a magical shield so why bother with that. I suppose when you're around people who are coughing and sneezing, you get as close as possible. There's a reason people cough and sneeze into a handkerchief or their elbow and it's not because it's led to the elimination of transmittable diseases. There is a reason we avoid others when we're sick.
 
CO2 doesn't build up behind a mask. If you can't breathe through a cloth mask you should be on oxygen or in the hospital. If masks led to dangerous levels of co2 buildup, then we'd have docs and nurses passing out all the time in surgery. I've had to wear real gas masks for hours - *****, but I didn't pass out. How did all the cowboys who wore masks to filter out dust avoid passing out?

It wasn't baseless, I was getting my training straight from CDC & HHS at the time. As I've posted numerous times when dealing with a geometric growth equation, slowing the growth (spread) rate just slightly makes huge differences generations down the road. That's just 8-10th grade math. This is just like the vaccine, it wasn't a magic shield therefore it wasn't worthwhile. And 6ft wasn't a magical shield so why bother with that. I suppose when you're around people who are coughing and sneezing, you get as close as possible. There's a reason people cough and sneeze into a handkerchief or their elbow and it's not because it's led to the elimination of transmittable diseases. There is a reason we avoid others when we're sick.
I knew factory workers that were forced to wear masks in a hot factory, where people would pass out all the time from wearing masks, and they had a special rest area for that specific problem, because that’s how bad it was. Co2 does build up behind the mask, because people have tested it. It’s harder to breathe with a mask on, the airflow behind the mask isn’t good, so co2 that you breathe out gets stuck behind the mask, and you’re constantly breathing that back in.

Yeah, let’s force people to do a bunch of experimental and unproven stuff against their will, that, at absolute best, marginally helped. Let’s just ignore the tyranny, ignore bodily autonomy (my body my choice LOL), all of the lies, all of the negative effects of lockdown measures on society. Let’s just bend over and spread our cheeks every time the gov wants to insert their will into our lives.

When you say it wasn’t baseless and say your info came from the CDC and HHS, lol, that’s the problem- those are the liars. Proven liars; they lied so much early on, man. They lied to force tyranny upon us.

Wearing a cloth mask, which is what most people used, and staying 6 feet apart will not protect you from an AEROSOLIZED virus. Do you not understand what aerosolized means? You say the cloth/cotton masks have a 10% chance to stop the virus. How in the hell is that major fail enough to warrant forced masking?
 
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I knew factory workers that were forced to wear masks in a hot factory, where people would pass out all the time from wearing masks, and they had a special rest area for that specific problem, because that’s how bad it was. Co2 does build up behind the mask, because people have tested it. It’s harder to breathe with a mask on, the airflow behind the mask isn’t good, so co2 that you breathe out gets stuck behind the mask, and you’re constantly breathing that back in.

Yeah, let’s force people to do a bunch of experimental and unproven stuff against their will, that, at absolute best, marginally helped. Let’s just ignore the tyranny, ignore bodily autonomy (my body my choice LOL), all of the lies, all of the negative effects of lockdown measures on society. Let’s just bend over and spread our cheeks every time the gov wants to insert their will into our lives.

When you say it wasn’t baseless and say your info came from the CDC and HHS, lol, that’s the problem- those are the liars. Proven liars; they lied so much early on, man. They lied to force tyranny upon us.

Wearing a cloth mask, which is what most people used, and staying 6 feet apart will not protect you from an AEROSOLIZED virus. Do you not understand what aerosolized means? You say the cloth/cotton masks have a 10% chance to stop the virus. How in the hell is that major fail enough to warrant forced masking?

Don’t forget from all the mask wearing the increase in dental problems. During covid I took my son for his annual check up at the dentist and it was insanely packed. The doctor said from all the kids wearing masks, he seen so many more cavities happening. When I went home I searched that and sure enough it was a problem not only for kids but also adults too. The problems also went far beyond cavities!
 
Don’t forget from all the mask wearing the increase in dental problems. During covid I took my son for his annual check up at the dentist and it was insanely packed. The doctor said from all the kids wearing masks, he seen so many more cavities happening. When I went home I searched that and sure enough it was a problem not only for kids but also adults too. The problems also went far beyond cavities!
Damn, I didn’t know that. Sounds horrible!
 
Damn, I didn’t know that. Sounds horrible!

Me either, when he told me I had to research it. The info is all out there now. The other thing is covid can be caught if it gets in your eyes so unless you’re wearing a full face respirator you’re not full protected 😅. I have an asbestos removal license, along with being medically cleared to wear respirators of all kinds due to the fact of working with oil that may contain PCB’s In underground transformers along with high voltages splices. I’m fully trained from osha and from the company I work for. Wearing masks was a waste, it was another thing to display that virtue. It should have been something that was a choice. Local businesses had to comply as the state would fine them if they didn’t. This was in NY, in other places it could have been different, I can only speak of this state.
 
I knew factory workers that were forced to wear masks in a hot factory, where people would pass out all the time from wearing masks, and they had a special rest area for that specific problem, because that’s how bad it was. Co2 does build up behind the mask, because people have tested it. It’s harder to breathe with a mask on, the airflow behind the mask isn’t good, so co2 that you breathe out gets stuck behind the mask, and you’re constantly breathing that back in.

Yeah, let’s force people to do a bunch of experimental and unproven stuff against their will, that, at absolute best, marginally helped. Let’s just ignore the tyranny, ignore bodily autonomy (my body my choice LOL), all of the lies, all of the negative effects of lockdown measures on society. Let’s just bend over and spread our cheeks every time the gov wants to insert their will into our lives.

When you say it wasn’t baseless and say your info came from the CDC and HHS, lol, that’s the problem- those are the liars. Proven liars; they lied so much early on, man. They lied to force tyranny upon us.

Wearing a cloth mask, which is what most people used, and staying 6 feet apart will not protect you from an AEROSOLIZED virus. Do you not understand what aerosolized means? You say the cloth/cotton masks have a 10% chance to stop the virus. How in the hell is that major fail enough to warrant forced masking?
Really, what lies did CDC and HHS spread? Funny how a mask can't stop aerosolized virus, but it can trap co2 molecules. Do you "anti-everything covid" guys even take a minute or two to think about the narrative you're running with before you run with it? I've done forced marches in deserts with a gas mask on, IPT with a gas mask on, etc. They've tested it. As I've said, surgeons, nurses and techs spend entire days behind surgical and n95s all day all the time. You're welcome to pretend that social distancing and masks don't work. However, you have no evidence to support this claim and CDC, etc does have evidence to support their claims - then again they're part of the worldwide Covid conspiracy.

 
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Really, what lies did CDC and HHS spread? Funny how a mask can't stop aerosolized virus, but it can trap co2 molecules. Do you "anti-everything covid" guys even take a minute or two to think about the narrative you're running with before you run with it? I've done forced marches in deserts with a gas mask on, IPT with a gas mask on, etc. They've tested it. As I've said, surgeons, nurses and techs spend entire days behind surgical and n95s all day all the time. You're welcome to pretend that social distancing and masks don't work. However, you have no evidence to support this claim and CDC, etc does have evidence to support their claims - then again they're part of the worldwide Covid conspiracy.

We're talking about cloth masks, not like military grade gas masks man. Idk how you're going to compare those; they're not remotely close to the same thing. That study you include seems to confirm what I was saying about causing people to inhale more of their own CO2 while breathing. We're also not really talking about n95 masks, because that's not what most people were wearing, and the activity and respiratory strain of "surgeons, nurses, and techs" in an air conditioned building isn't relavent to people doing things like hard labor all day.

"Conclusion: Although, significant increase in CO2 concentrations are noted with routinely used face-masks, the levels still remain within the NIOSH limits for short-term use. Therefore, there should not be a concern in their regular day-to-day use for healthcare providers. The clinical implications of elevated CO2 levels with long-term use of face masks needs further studies. Use of PAPR prevents relative hypercapnoea. However, whether PAPR should be advocated for healthcare workers requiring PPE for extended hours needs to evaluated in further studies."

Even in your own study they say they need more testing to see how elevated levels of CO2 mess with people wearing masks for long durations; yet, you say "they've tested it." Why did you post that study? It's not about cloth masks, which are what most people were/are wearing. As far as CO2 goes, your mask captures the CO2 exhaled at the end of your breath, and you breathe in that gaseous waste back in immediately; it's literally just common sense. It's like taking a poop, then some of the poop goes back into your butthole. Like, it really doesn't have anything to do with what we are talking about, and regular breathing isn't what everyone was doing who was forced to wear usually a cloth-based mask:

"...CO2 levels were measured during regular breathing while donning 1) no mask, 2) JustAir® powered air purifying respirator (PAPR), 3) KN95 respirator, and 4) valved-respirator."

Do you "pro-everything covid" guys even take a minute or two to make sense with the own studies you post? Sorry, looks like a fail of an argument on your part. AND...if you're indoors, while there is an aerosolized virus in the air, it doesn't matter how far apart you are or if you're wearing a cloth mask or not. The aerosolized covid virus can float in the air, be circulated through the AC system, and you can breathe it in around the sides your cloth mask. Aerosolized viruses inside of buildings are going to travel very far, especially if you have a lot of people inside, like a doctor's office or a restaurant, whatever. I don't understand what you don't understand.

FYI, the whole reason they went into a bat cave to get the type of covid that they did is because in that bat cave, they noticed aerosolized or air transmission of a coronavirus.....that's specifically why they chose that particular strain to weaponize, and that base, aerosolized coronavirus they found is what sars-cov-2 (covid-19) was modified from. They made that aerosolized, bat cave coronavirus into a gain of function bioweapon by modifying the spike protein to be more likely to infect humans via the ACE-2 receptors, which you have a lot of in your lungs.
 
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We're talking about cloth masks, not like military grade gas masks man. Idk how you're going to compare those; they're not remotely close to the same thing. That study you include seems to confirm what I was saying about causing people to inhale more of their own CO2 while breathing. We're also not really talking about n95 masks, because that's not what most people were wearing, and the activity and respiratory strain of "surgeons, nurses, and techs" in an air conditioned building isn't relavent to people doing things like hard labor all day.

"Conclusion: Although, significant increase in CO2 concentrations are noted with routinely used face-masks, the levels still remain within the NIOSH limits for short-term use. Therefore, there should not be a concern in their regular day-to-day use for healthcare providers. The clinical implications of elevated CO2 levels with long-term use of face masks needs further studies. Use of PAPR prevents relative hypercapnoea. However, whether PAPR should be advocated for healthcare workers requiring PPE for extended hours needs to evaluated in further studies."

Even in your own study they say they need more testing to see how elevated levels of CO2 mess with people wearing masks for long durations; yet, you say "they've tested it." Why did you post that study? It's not about cloth masks, which are what most people were/are wearing. As far as CO2 goes, your mask captures the CO2 exhaled at the end of your breath, and you breathe in that gaseous waste back in immediately; it's literally just common sense. It's like taking a poop, then some of the poop goes back into your butthole. Like, it really doesn't have anything to do with what we are talking about, and regular breathing isn't what everyone was doing who was forced to wear usually a cloth-based mask:

"...CO2 levels were measured during regular breathing while donning 1) no mask, 2) JustAir® powered air purifying respirator (PAPR), 3) KN95 respirator, and 4) valved-respirator."

Do you "pro-everything covid" guys even take a minute or two to make sense with the own studies you post? Sorry, looks like a fail of an argument on your part. AND...if you're indoors, while there is an aerosolized virus in the air, it doesn't matter how far apart you are or if you're wearing a cloth mask or not. The aerosolized covid virus can float in the air, be circulated through the AC system, and you can breathe it in around the sides your cloth mask. Aerosolized viruses inside of buildings are going to travel very far, especially if you have a lot of people inside, like a doctor's office or a restaurant, whatever. I don't understand what you don't understand.

FYI, the whole reason they went into a bat cave to get the type of covid that they did is because in that bat cave, they noticed aerosolized or air transmission of a coronavirus.....that's specifically why they chose that particular strain to weaponize, and that base, aerosolized coronavirus they found is what sars-cov-2 (covid-19) was modified from. They made that aerosolized, bat cave coronavirus into a gain of function bioweapon by modifying the spike protein to be more likely to infect humans via the ACE-2 receptors, which you have a lot of in your lungs.
Cloth masks are so much easier to breath thru than n95, surgical and definitely gas masks during a forced march in the desert.

Again, any virus trapped in the mask is a virus that can't get to me. The masks were never going to stop the spread of the virus or it would have never spread in China in the first place. I guess you just never did the geometric growth equation; I assumed that was standard equation taught in High Schools in the US.
 
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Cloth masks are so much easier to breath thru than n95, surgical and definitely gas masks during a forced march in the desert.

Again, any virus trapped in the mask is a virus that can't get to me. The masks were never going to stop the spread of the virus or it would have never spread in China in the first place. I guess you just never did the geometric growth equation; I assumed that was standard equation taught in High Schools in the US.
I was always in AP/Honors math in a very hard college prep private school for the entirety of my mathematical schooling. I took AP statistics in high school, as well. I was in the top 99th percentile in my state for quantitative analysis (math), and 98th percentile in English. There's direct blood relatives in my family that have over a 140 IQ. I went to 2 major colleges, for a short time, for computer science and audio engineering, before I realized how bad my health was, which kept me from being to continue or go far in college. I'm also box designer, which is pure math; do you honestly think I don't understand numbers? You wanna play that petty card of "I guess you don't understand math?" Do you realize how exponentially stupid you sound fighting for wearing a mask that you said the CDC said stopped 10% of the virus? The virus is "trapped in the mask," when you said it only stops 10% of the virus? And YOU want to lecture ME about math?

Have you heard of this thing that you supposedly fought for called freedom and liberty? Oath to the constitution? Freedom and liberty and justice for all? Don't give me that bullshit. You're a good order follower, aren't you? They trained you well not to think for yourself and just obey. When they ask you to lick their boots, you ask "how shiny do you want them to be?"
 
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I was always in AP/Honors math in a very hard college prep private school for the entirety of my mathematical schooling. I took AP statistics in high school, as well. I was in the top 99th percentile in my state for quantitative analysis (math), and 98th percentile in English. There's direct blood relatives in my family that have over a 140 IQ. I went to 2 major colleges, for a short time, for computer science and audio engineering, before I realized how bad my health was, which kept me from being to continue or go far in college. I'm also box designer, which is pure math; do you honestly think I don't understand numbers? You wanna play that petty card of "I guess you don't understand math?" Do you realize how exponentially stupid you sound fighting for wearing a mask that you said the CDC said stopped 10% of the virus? The virus is "trapped in the mask?" when you said it only stops 10% of the virus? And YOU want to lecture ME about math?

Have you heard of this thing that you supposedly fought for called freedom and liberty? Oath to the constitution? Freedom and liberty for all? Don't give me that bullshit. You're a good order follower, aren't you? They trained you well not to think for yourself and just obey. When they ask you to lick their boots, you ask "how shiny do you want them to be?"
So you do understand how that 10% (or greater depending on the mask), plus social distancing, plus lock down measures, etc would create a large effect over time, you just won't acknowledge it in your posts. Interesting how that works. I didn't take an oath to make sure you wouldn't have to wear a mask. So sorry these masks so phucked up your life for ~1.5 years. I hope you and all the others harmed by masks are able to recover. That said I'd submit that the greatest amount of harm from the masks was 1) People going off on others because of the mask, and 2) rioters feeling free to riot because they're faces were hidden by the mask.
 
So you do understand how that 10% (or greater depending on the mask), plus social distancing, plus lock down measures, etc would create a large effect over time, you just won't acknowledge it in your posts. Interesting how that works. I didn't take an oath to make sure you wouldn't have to wear a mask. So sorry these masks so phucked up your life for ~1.5 years. I hope you and all the others harmed by masks are able to recover. That said I'd submit that the greatest amount of harm from the masks was 1) People going off on others because of the mask, and 2) rioters feeling free to riot because they're faces were hidden by the mask.
Nothing stopped covid, Jim. Covid happened, and all of the measures did nothing but ruin our economy and the mental health of the US. Vaccines don't and didn't stop the spread, most masks people used didn't work, and social distancing doesn't mean jack shit with an aerosolized virus, unless you're like on the other side of a warehouse from people. The lockdowns and covid measures did far more harm than good for the entire world, and that was all part of the plandemic.
 
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@Jimi77 The lockdowns caused this. Is this what you want? Do you want kids becoming dumber and having ill-developed brains, when they have almost a 0% chance of dying from Covid? Do you ever consider the larger consequences of what you promote? Show me the growth curve of how this is going to impact our nation:

"Key findings from the study:


  • While students grew academically in the 2022-23 school year, achievement gains fell short of pre-pandemic trends in most grades, with the exception of the youngest students who bucked this trend and made above average achievement gains.
  • The gap in achievement levels between the COVID cohort and their pre-pandemic peers did not shrink in 2022-23, and in some grades widened slightly.
  • With these latest numbers, it’s estimated that most students would now need, on average, an additional 4.5 months of mathematics instruction and 4.1 months of reading instruction to recover in these two subjects.
  • All groups showed sluggish achievement gains, but traditionally marginalized students (Black, Hispanic), remain furthest from recovery."

 
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