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[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

When it's taken to fight something that it doesn't fight, then you refer to it as what it's intended for.

Drink edible suntan lotion to help soothe your heartburn, and people are likely going to say you are drinking "Coppertone".
Take an anti-parasitic to prevent or cure COVID, and people are going to say you are taking "horse dewormer".
It underscores the stupidity of people who decry medical science, yet think they are smart enough to figure out how to cure or prevent disease on their own.

Avoid a vaccine, but be sure to: drink bleach, take Ivermectin, drink urine, pray to god, inhale hydrogen peroxide, use red soap to wash your hands for better cleaning, gargle with saltwater to kill the virus, use a USB "5G bioshield" memory stick, rub your hands with volcanic ash, be sure to use only white tissues and handkerchiefs, take a mix of amphetamines/cocaine/nicotine, drink ethanol.

Yeah, these are all actual treatments/preventatives that people used and even sold.

Quit justifying your spin

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

It wa a choice all along. Not sure why you think it wasn't.

And you're right about it not being 2021. Here is the breakthrough data. It sure looks that he unvaccinated were always wrose off than the vaccinated.
Coincidence?
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So, you refused the vax and got COVID. Interesting. Far too small a sample to make a conclusion from obviously, but interesting. I have a rather large immdiate family. All vaxxed. Only three got COVID.
Still a small sampling, but it points ina direction, especially when we heard of unvaxxed families suffering devastating losses as they all got COVID and shared with each other.

The chart above talks in terms of "per 100,000", That a pretty significant statistical sampling. And it seems to point in the direction that the vax was pretty effective, especially when things took a major spike in late 2021.

Where did you get that info about vaccinated vs unvaccinated being in the hospital? The director of the CDC specifically stated that the CDC didn’t collect that data:

‘One of the few points she did concede was that the CDC didn’t collect data on whether people who were hospitalized were vaccinated…’

‘“We don’t have that at a national level,” Walensky said. “At a national level, we get hospitalization data, we get hospitalization for Covid data, but at a national level we have never been able to get hospitalization, vaccination, and Covid.”’

CDC’s Walensky parries Republican criticism over Biden’s Covid response

GOP lawmakers took predictable shots at CDC Director Rochelle Walensky during one of their last opportunities to question her before she leaves government.

www.statnews.com

So…where’s that data coming from that you posted?

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Where did you get that info about vaccinated vs unvaccinated being in the hospital? The director of the CDC specifically stated that the CDC didn’t collect that data:

‘One of the few points she did concede was that the CDC didn’t collect data on whether people who were hospitalized were vaccinated…’

‘“We don’t have that at a national level,” Walensky said. “At a national level, we get hospitalization data, we get hospitalization for Covid data, but at a national level we have never been able to get hospitalization, vaccination, and Covid.”’

CDC’s Walensky parries Republican criticism over Biden’s Covid response

GOP lawmakers took predictable shots at CDC Director Rochelle Walensky during one of their last opportunities to question her before she leaves government.

www.statnews.com

So…where’s that data coming from that you posted?

He probably made it up

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Your chart is showing case hospitalization, death rates. That is different and is what the vaccine is best used against, Not getting infected. If we are talking personal experience, my neighbors im close to all 3 got vaxed and all 3 got covid. My mom and my sister got vaxed and both got covid. I didn’t get vaxed and got covid. Plenty of people at my job I know got vaxed that didn’t want to deal with the religious exemptions got covid. Heck nearly 3 million people in NY got vaxed got covid. It wasn’t a choice for many as people lost their jobs over this, people couldn’t do certain things unless they got vaccinated. I made my choice and have no regrets. I was sick for 2 days and while being sick was doing the setup in my demo car . I’ve had the flu before way worse that left me in bed delirious for 7 days. The good news is this crap is over and no one really cares about it anymore. I truly feel it became way too political and it’s about time both sides are moving on from it.

That’s the same with me…I got it before the vaccines were even available and was sick for just about 2 days. It was like a weird flu for me, recovered fine, no problems, was in my late 20’s at the time. Just took a lot of vitamin c and d and drank a shit ton of water and rested a bunch. I got covid after opening up a home audio receiver that just got shipped to me. I got sick within just hours of my hands on that stereo box. I didn’t even know I was sick at first, I was box designing, then I saw my temp was like 103 lol.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Quit justifying your spin

Quit trying to spin to cover your failures. You're not smart enough to be successful.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Your chart is showing case hospitalization, death rates. That is different and is what the vaccine is best used against, Not getting infected. If we are talking personal experience, my neighbors im close to all 3 got vaxed and all 3 got covid. My mom and my sister got vaxed and both got covid. I didn’t get vaxed and got covid. Plenty of people at my job I know got vaxed that didn’t want to deal with the religious exemptions got covid. Heck nearly 3 million people in NY got vaxed got covid. It wasn’t a choice for many as people lost their jobs over this, people couldn’t do certain things unless they got vaccinated. I made my choice and have no regrets. I was sick for 2 days and while being sick was doing the setup in my demo car . I’ve had the flu before way worse that left me in bed delirious for 7 days. The good news is this crap is over and no one really cares about it anymore. I truly feel it became way too political and it’s about time both sides are moving on from it.

Their chart shows, cases, (<that's a comma) hospitalizations, and deaths. Cases means someone is infected and sick.

Yes, I mentioned that personal experience is a small data set. Referencing "per 100,000 people" is a much larger data set and much more representaive of the rality of what happened.
There are people (and some people here) who think that their personal microscopic data set is representative of what is happening on a much larger scale (the old "It's cold at my house, so global warming must be a lie" argument).
I'm not one of those people, but my personal experience (and that of my family) was similar to the national stats regarding the odds of getting COVID after being vaxxed.

It is unfortunate that someone politicized it in order to divide. If it had been used like all other "attacks" on our country - as a way to unite us against a common enemy - it would have been far more beneficial to us all, and undoubtedly to the knucklehead who chose division instead.
It will be nice when it is a distant memory, though with the seeming attention span of the average person these days, it probably already is. Not me. I hold grudges well.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

That’s the same with me…I got it before the vaccines were even available and was sick for just about 2 days. It was like a weird flu for me, recovered fine, no problems, was in my late 20’s at the time. Just took a lot of vitamin c and d and drank a shit ton of water and rested a bunch. I got covid after opening up a home audio receiver that just got shipped to me. I got sick within just hours of my hands on that stereo box. I didn’t even know I was sick at first, I was box designing, then I saw my temp was like 103 lol.

You were sick with COVID within just a few hours of exposure?

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Quit trying to spin to cover your failures. You're not smart enough to be successful.

I'm not the one calling medication prescribed to someone by their doctor as "horse medicine" to spin my talking point...it's almost as bad as you just fabricating accusations

 

[djdilliodon!]

Their chart shows, cases, (<that's a comma) hospitalizations, and deaths. Cases means someone is infected and sick.

Yes, I mentioned that personal experience is a small data set. Referencing "per 100,000 people" is a much larger data set and much more representaive of the rality of what happened.
There are people (and some people here) who think that their personal microscopic data set is representative of what is happening on a much larger scale (the old "It's cold at my house, so global warming must be a lie" argument).
I'm not one of those people, but my personal experience (and that of my family) was similar to the national stats regarding the odds of getting COVID after being vaxxed.

It is unfortunate that someone politicized it in order to divide. If it had been used like all other "attacks" on our country - as a way to unite us against a common enemy - it would have been far more beneficial to us all, and undoubtedly to the knucklehead who chose division instead.
It will be nice when it is a distant memory, though with the seeming attention span of the average person these days, it probably already is. Not me. I hold grudges well.

Yes but it is on hospitalizations, I’ve played with that chart many times myself .

Yep, many have left it in the rear view mirror and just simply don’t care anymore. I think the tracking the states were doing was important as it’s capturing a large amount of people in the state. Now they stopped since the authorization expired. We are now in a time that every single subject is becoming political and the divide is pretty massive and only getting worse. Each side every single day is just waiting for a talking point to make the other side look bad. I find it incredible how each side was on the same page with a lot of things and then magically they weren’t.

 

[djdilliodon!]

I'm not the one calling medication prescribed to someone by their doctor as "horse medicine" to spin my talking point...it's almost as bad as you just fabricating accusations

Ivermectin is used to treat parasite infections in animals and humans but is also used in forms of topical creams to treat parasite infections like head lice and skin conditions like rosacea. I wouldn’t recommend anyone taking it in the amounts prescribed for horses though. That goes for any medicine lol

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Ivermectin is used to treat parasite infections in animals and humans but is also used in forms of topical creams to treat parasite infections like head lice and skin conditions like rosacea. I wouldn’t recommend anyone taking it in the amounts prescribed for horses though. That goes for any medicine lol

Except maybe ketamine.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I'm not the one calling medication prescribed to someone by their doctor as "horse medicine" to spin my talking point...it's almost as bad as you just fabricating accusations

Yes. I created the term "horse dewromer" when talking about idiots who were taking it or promoting the use of it in order to avoid taking a tested and proved vaccine.
I am quite the internet/infotainment influencer.

Did you see my work on calling COVID-19 the "Kung-Flu"? That one went pretty far.
Not quite as good as when I coined "Spanish Flu" way back when, though. THAT one really stuck.

 

[djdilliodon!]

Except maybe ketamine.

Wouldn’t recommend that either but I know many do as it’s used recreationally to get high . I believe in Portland crystal meth is used just because you can now .

 

[djdilliodon!]

Yes. I created the term "horse dewromer" when talking about idiots who were taking it or promoting the use of it in order to avoid taking a tested and proved vaccine.
I am quite the internet/infotainment influencer.

Did you see my work on calling COVID-19 the "Kung-Flu"? That one went pretty far.
Not quite as good as when I coined "Spanish Flu" way back when, though. THAT one really stuck.

Can’t call it those things, now calling something where it came from is racist. All though it’s believed the Spanish flu originated in the USA so we can call it the American flu. I’m not sure if the rules say we can do that or not if it’s still considered racist .

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Yes. I created the term "horse dewromer" when talking about idiots who were taking it or promoting the use of it in order to avoid taking a tested and proved vaccine.
I am quite the internet/infotainment influencer.

Did you see my work on calling COVID-19 the "Kung-Flu"? That one went pretty far.
Not quite as good as when I coined "Spanish Flu" way back when, though. THAT one really stuck.

Nope you ain't creative enough for that...You're just dumb enough to repeat bullsh!t because it make you feel good about your choices