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Whatever I do or don't to my body is something I should question whether for my benefit, the benefit of others or my detriment or the detriment of others. Why should ignore 1/2 the equation? I'm definitely against ignoring 1/2 the equation when it comes to anything.
I dont agree with that. Not going over to their house when you’re sick is common sense. That’s not the same thing as getting an injection in your body for ofher people. Not to mention you could get the injection for your own benefit and just claim you’re doing it for other people. Are you saying I don’t care for my parents as much as you because I didn’t get injected?
 
What if who you’re trying to help doesn’t give 2 shits about your virtue signaling? Is it not pretentious to think you know what’s for the benefit or detriment of someone else?
Oh, so trying to protect my parents from Covid is virtue signaling - thanks for the update. I'm pretty sure living and not being sick is beneficial to others, no pretense needed.
 
The cdc bruh along with others. how about you show me some evidence the shot prevents someone from getting covid. I’ve done enough to prove my point and it’s obvious to anyone reading this that the virtue you cling to is pathetic, pathetic to a point that you can’t even admit it which makes me truly feel sorry for you. It’s like a male transitioning to a female and thinking now he really is a female. Your delusion doesn’t need to apply to anyone but yourself. I add the quotes from the article and obviously you see it’s says exactly what I said and that is your reply 🤣

I’ll help you one last time, start digging. I hope the cdc is credible to you, after all you believed them once before right?
Hey “bruh”, show me where the CDC says that vaccines don’t do what vaccines are supposed to do.

Your link to the CDC brings us to a page that says vaccines are effective.
Are you using Buck and Thxone’s tactic of giving evidence that disproves your own argument?

“Getting a COVID-19 vaccine is a safer, more reliable way to build protection than getting sick with COVID-19. COVID-19 vaccination helps protect people by creating an immune response without the potentially severe illness or post-COVID conditionsthat can be associated with COVID-19 infection.”

But since you’ll likely now say the CDC is lying, here’s some info from Yale medicine on vaccine efficacy: https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/covid-19-vaccine-comparison#:~:text=It found bivalent vaccines from,24.9% for the monovalent vaccine.

And since Yale med is likely a shill operation, here is some info from the American Medical Association: https://www.ama-assn.org/delivering...ts-knew-about-how-well-covid-19-vaccines-work
 
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The cdc bruh along with others. how about you show me some evidence the shot prevents someone from getting covid. I’ve done enough to prove my point and it’s obvious to anyone reading this that the virtue you cling to is pathetic, pathetic to a point that you can’t even admit it which makes me truly feel sorry for you. It’s like a male transitioning to a female and thinking now he really is a female. Your delusion doesn’t need to apply to anyone but yourself. I add the quotes from the article and obviously you see it’s says exactly what I said and that is your reply 🤣

I’ll help you one last time, start digging. I hope the cdc is credible to you, after all you believed them once before right?
As I said before, you have 3 data sets. The original Alpha variant, Delta and Omicron. The data clearly indicated with Alpha and Delta that vax was effective at preventing covid. Omicron OTOH, is very effective at circumventing the vax, lucky it isn't as deadly as Alpha or Delta.
 
Oh, so trying to protect my parents from Covid is virtue signaling - thanks for the update. I'm pretty sure living and not being sick is beneficial to others, no pretense needed.
I think you do care about your parents. it’s not virtue signaling to care. Telling people you got the shot for your parents is the virtue signaling. You got the shot for yourself. Your parents could’ve gotten the shot for themselves also. If you’re injecting drugs into yourself and claiming it’s for other people, I call BS on that. Being virtuous isn’t so convenient that saving your own life can somehow be twisted around to pretend like it was for others. You don’t seem so shallow that you can’t see my point on this.
 
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Ahh!!! Kung flu ninja’d it’s way out of a lab!!! It’s your fault if the virus that you had nothing to do with makes other people sick!!!

So take the vaccine or you’re hurting people!
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I think you do care about your parents. it’s not virtue signaling to care. Telling people you got the shot for your parents is the virtue signaling. You got the shot for yourself. Your parents could’ve gotten the shot for themselves also. If you’re injecting drugs into yourself and claiming it’s for other people, I call BS on that. Being virtuous isn’t so convenient that saving your own life can somehow be twisted around to pretend like it was for others. You don’t seem so shallow that you can’t see my point on this.
But if he’s in the age group that all the anti-vaxxers claim were perfectly safe from COVID, how could getting the shot be for himself?

If he’s perfectly safe, then getting the shot must be for other reasons.
Maybe so his body rejects the virus and he doesnt become a carrier/shedder who gets his parents sick without getting sick himself?

Just another example of how the anti-vax arguments fall apart under even the most basic scrutiny.
 
But if he’s in the age group that all the anti-vaxxers claim were perfectly safe from COVID, how could getting the shot be for himself?

If he’s perfectly safe, then getting the shot must be for other reasons.
Maybe so his body rejects the virus and he doesnt become a carrier/shedder who gets his parents sick without getting sick himself?

Just another example of how the anti-vax arguments fall apart under even the most basic scrutiny.
You throw around your intelligence like a 12 year old who found his dads gun. If you claim you got vaccinated for other people, you’re a liar. Very convenient that the vaccination you thought was to save your life suddenly became that you’re somehow a hero. You’re pathetic and everyone here knows it.
 
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“We all know the vaccine does nothing to prevent COVID”?
Who is this “we”, and why haven’t they explained this to the entire medical community?
If you are part of the “we”, what are your credentials?

Sorry, but that ridiculous claim alone thoroughly nullifies anything you have to say about the subject.
CDC no longer includes preventing Covid on the Benefit of Getting A Covid-19 Vax page. Specifically, they don't list as something the vax is "effective" at doing. To say it does "nothing" to prevent Covid is overstating it's ineffectiveness, but it is clear that the vax is not "effective" at stopping the Omicron variant. I haven't had a Omicron booster, so we'll see how that goes if/when I get it.

That said, summer of 2021 was a different story and the vax was clearly preventing Covid cases, saved many lives, hospitalizations and reduced the workload of a overworked healthcare workers.
 
Hey “bruh”, show me where the CDC says that vaccines don’t do what vaccines are supposed to do.

Your link to the CDC brings us to a page that says vaccines are effective.
Are you using Buck and Thxone’s tactic of giving evidence that disproves your own argument?

“Getting a COVID-19 vaccine is a safer, more reliable way to build protection than getting sick with COVID-19. COVID-19 vaccination helps protect people by creating an immune response without the potentially severe illness or post-COVID conditionsthat can be associated with COVID-19 infection.”

But since you’ll likely now say the CDC is lying, here’s some info from Yale medicine on vaccine efficacy: https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/covid-19-vaccine-comparison#:~:text=It found bivalent vaccines from,24.9% for the monovalent vaccine.

And since Yale med is likely a shill operation, here is some info from the American Medical Association: https://www.ama-assn.org/delivering...ts-knew-about-how-well-covid-19-vaccines-work

That link was to start you on your journey through the rest. Nowhere on it does it say it prevents you from getting the virus or prevents infecting others, only that it protects you from being hospitalized, having long term effects, or death. Again when they eradicate covid or the flu, let me know and when you get the shots I’ll give you back your precious virtue.

Now let’s look at some vaccines that actually prevent you from getting something. These will give you the virtue you desire:

Polio vaccine 99-100% effective.

HPV vaccine nearly 100% effective preventing external genital warts. That’s great news who wants that lol.

Smallpox vaccine 95% effective at preventing it, that pretty darn solid.

Chickenpox vaccine over 90% effective, also pretty darn good.

Many more
 
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I think you do care about your parents. it’s not virtue signaling to care. Telling people you got the shot for your parents is the virtue signaling. You got the shot for yourself. Your parents could’ve gotten the shot for themselves also. If you’re injecting drugs into yourself and claiming it’s for other people, I call BS on that. Being virtuous isn’t so convenient that saving your own life can somehow be twisted around to pretend like it was for others. You don’t seem so shallow that you can’t see my point on this.
I'm not running around advertising to the world "Yeah me, I got the shot for my parents." I'm just sharing what my motivations were and as far as I can tell they were pretty selfish. How is me getting the shot for MY parents virtue signaling; it's totally selfish act for me and my family. Just like I'd run into a burning building for my kids - that's not virtue, that's pure selfishness. Claiming I got the shot for YOUR parents would be virtue signaling.

Furthermore, what is wrong with doing things for the benefit of others? In what twisted world has doing something for the benefit of others become a bad thing? When somebody notices my Marine Corps license plates, I get "Thank you for your service," but getting vaxxed for the benefit of the greater good is "virtue signaling?" What about those license plates?
 
I'm not running around advertising to the world "Yeah me, I got the shot for my parents." I'm just sharing what my motivations were and as far as I can tell they were pretty selfish. How is me getting the shot for MY parents virtue signaling; it's totally selfish act for me and my family. Just like I'd run into a burning building for my kids - that's not virtue, that's pure selfishness. Claiming I got the shot for YOUR parents would be virtue signaling.

Furthermore, what is wrong with doing things for the benefit of others? In what twisted world has doing something for the benefit of others become a bad thing? When somebody notices my Marine Corps license plates, I get "Thank you for your service," but getting vaxxed for the benefit of the greater good is "virtue signaling?" What about those license plates?

Personally, I don’t think it’s virtue signaling you got the shot for your parents, especially with the info that was out at the time you did it. In all honesty even with any info, it’s your parents and you did what you felt was right. I don’t feel it’s a bad thing to do things to help or benefit others. That virtue only comes into play when you essentially brag about it or do it when there really is no benefit for others but yourself and try to push as it was to benefit others and not yourself. Got alot of people out there these days, especially ones who live on social media who crave a purpose and attention. I don’t have any social media but I’ve seen from plenty of friends people bragging they got their shot to save humanity or them wearing masks that don’t do anything and bragging they are wearing it to show look I’m saving lives or them just looking like idiots taking selfies with a mask on thinking they are cool lol.
 
I'm not running around advertising to the world "Yeah me, I got the shot for my parents." I'm just sharing what my motivations were and as far as I can tell they were pretty selfish. How is me getting the shot for MY parents virtue signaling; it's totally selfish act for me and my family. Just like I'd run into a burning building for my kids - that's not virtue, that's pure selfishness. Claiming I got the shot for YOUR parents would be virtue signaling.

Furthermore, what is wrong with doing things for the benefit of others? In what twisted world has doing something for the benefit of others become a bad thing? When somebody notices my Marine Corps license plates, I get "Thank you for your service," but getting vaxxed for the benefit of the greater good is "virtue signaling?" What about those license plates?
I do believe you would run into a burning building for your kids. There isn’t a whole politicized thread full of hate and BS about running into burning buildings. I’m sure you’d give a kidney or even your own life for your kids also. I don’t believe your Covid vaccine was motivated by wanting to keep others healthy though. The weakling down the street who has never done anything for anyone is also a hero like you, simply for getting a shot that Facebook told them made them a hero. Virtue sure come cheap these days.
 
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I do believe you would run into a burning building for your kids. There isn’t a whole politicized thread full of hate and BS about running into burning buildings. I’m sure you’d give a kidney or even your own life for your kids also. I don’t believe your Covid vaccine was motivated by wanting to keep others healthy though. The weakling down the street who has never done anything for anyone is also a hero like you, simply for getting a shot that Facebook told them made them a hero. Heroes sure come cheap these days.

Have I ever said one thing about hateful in this thread? Have I ever said another that should be characterized as "BS" in this thread?

The "vaxxed people are heros" is your narrative not mine. I'm not sure how getting another vaccine when I already had dozens of immunization shots counts as heroic or virtuous. It was a minor inconvenience. I never claimed it was heroic nor have I ever claimed some moral high ground over those that chose not to vax. Is that the new line of reasoning with the anti-vaxxers; since there is no credible anti-vax argument to be made based on empirical data, instead the vaccinated are fools for thinking we're heros for getting the vax? And yes, for many "pro-vaxxers" getting the Covid vaccine was about the greater good (herd immunity) in addition to their personnel health. Again, I'm astonished that if one of your motives for doing something is that is can benefit of others, in addition to yourself, that is somehow a bad thing.
 
Personally, I don’t think it’s virtue signaling you got the shot for your parents, especially with the info that was out at the time you did it. In all honesty even with any info, it’s your parents and you did what you felt was right. I don’t feel it’s a bad thing to do things to help or benefit others. That virtue only comes into play when you essentially brag about it or do it when there really is no benefit for others but yourself and try to push as it was to benefit others and not yourself. Got alot of people out there these days, especially ones who live on social media who crave a purpose and attention. I don’t have any social media but I’ve seen from plenty of friends people bragging they got their shot to save humanity or them wearing masks that don’t do anything and bragging they are wearing it to show look I’m saving lives or them just looking like idiots taking selfies with a mask on thinking they are cool lol.
There was definitely lot of hyperbole from the pro-mask/vax crowd as well as the anti-mask/vax folks. Remember Covid parties?
 
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