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[Jimi77 5,000+ posts]

It proves(to me) that no matter what Pfizer says to promote their products, they can't be trusted. Of course, I'm an anti-vaxer and according to the Pfizer's CEO I'm a criminal.

According to Big AL you're a kook. I'm under no illusion that Pfizer is a bunch of angels. OTOH, there appears to be people under the illusion that Pfizer's CEO is running around telling people that the Covid vax doesn't produce immunity.

 

[moe3152]

Does it really matter? The bottom line is, if you can't trust a company who's directly involved in controlling you're health, the only solution is to runaway as quick as you can.

 

[Jimi77 5,000+ posts]

Does it really matter? The bottom line is, if you can't trust a company who's directly involved in controlling you're health, the only solution is to runaway as quick as you can.

I see. I guess I better move to an isolated island since I can't think of single state or country where I would call the politicians trustworthy. Got to stop eating because who knows wtf is going on with food supply.

Unfortunately, how can I trust the anti-vaxxers, who are okay with lies and disinformation coming from their side because they're the good guys. Ironically that sounds alot like the shyt they were peddling at the Davos group.

 

[moe3152]

That's ok. It's obvious you didn't watch all of Russell Brand's video. Believe what you want. Just make sure you click your heels and salute Captain Faucci when he gives you an order.

 

[Jimi77 5,000+ posts]

That's ok. It's obvious you didn't watch all of Russell Brand's video. Believe what you want. Just make sure you click your heels and salute Captain Faucci when he gives you an order.

I watched the whole thing. I actually like Russ.

So anybody that got the vax was just following marching orders. No chance we looked at the data and concluded the benefits outweighed the risks. Is that why the anti-vaxxers resorted to the disinformation campaigns - you just assumed we were all blindly following Fauci?

Any sources for Pfizer's CEO saying the vax didn't produce immunity?

 

[moe3152]

I watched the whole thing. I actually like Russ.

So anybody that got the vax was just following marching orders. No chance we looked at the data and concluded the benefits outweighed the risks. Is that why the anti-vaxxers resorted to the disinformation campaigns - you just assumed we were all blindly following Fauci?

Any sources for Pfizer's CEO saying the vax didn't produce immunity?

They didn't resort to disinformation. Instead, they took the word of independent virologists who weren't on the jab sellers payroll.
Such as : https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ors-who-are-challenging-the-covid-19-response

As far as Bourla, check the interview he gave with Face The Nation.
Quote "But also, we know that the duration of the protection doesn't last very long. Not only of the vaccine, but also the people that are getting sick."

Full transcript: Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla on "Face the Nation," March 13, 2022

The following is a full transcript of an interview with Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla that aired Sunday, March 13, 2022, on "Face the Nation."

www.cbsnews.com

 

[moe3152]

I watched the whole thing. I actually like Russ.

So anybody that got the vax was just following marching orders. No chance we looked at the data and concluded the benefits outweighed the risks. Is that why the anti-vaxxers resorted to the disinformation campaigns - you just assumed we were all blindly following Fauci?

Any sources for Pfizer's CEO saying the vax didn't produce immunity?

You and I are worlds apart in our opinions. So, enjoy yours and I'll enjoy mine. Hopefully, we'll meet again at the voting booth and see if democracy still exists.

 

[RobGMN 5,000+ posts]

Connect the dots. Here's 2 young professional athletes in prime strength and health. They've played sports every year since high school, college and now the pros. And each year they we're given physicals that didn't show any signs of heart conditions. If there had been any indication that they had heart problems they would not have been allowed to continue, especially at the professional level. They get the shots and they die on the field. These 2 made the news but globally this is happening to thousands of athletes. Never before in history has anything like this happened. And the only common link is the shots.

Are you willing to share the data on these “thousands”?

And can you explain why, when the vax is the “common link” among thousands, we are supposed to blame the vax?
Yet, when the vax is the “common link” among millions who were no longer being hospitalized due to COVID (while the unvaxed WERE), the vax is not attributed?

Pretty counterintuitive, if you ask me.
Or maybe just molded to fit the narrative.

 

[moe3152]

Because you're looking through a very small window, expecting side effects to be immediate. And if they're not you see the vaxxes as fine, ok. Strokes and heart attacks due to spike protein clotting can happen right away or months or years later. That's why the typical, historical testing and approval time for vaccines has been on average 10 years.

And by the way, most hospitalizations today are for those vaxxed.

These will help explain it -

 

[RobGMN 5,000+ posts]

Because you're looking through a very small window, expecting side effects to be immediate. And if they're not you see the vaxxes as fine, ok. Strokes and heart attacks due to spike protein clotting can happen right away or months or years later. That's why the typical, historical testing and approval time for vaccines has been on average 10 years.

And by the way, most hospitalizations today are for those vaxxed.

Not that it is really a vaccine worth mentioning, but that little-known polio vax was approved in 2 years.
It was tested on a few people one year, then 1.6 million a year later.
In 1953.

It was approved the day the results were announced. In 1955.

 

[moe3152]

Not that it is really a vaccine worth mentioning, but that little-known polio vax was approved in 2 years.
It was tested on a few people one year, then 1.6 million a year later.
In 1953.

It was approved the day the results were announced. In 1955.

If they had waited just those 2 years all the side effects would have been revealed and I don't think there's any way they could have approved it.

 

[RobGMN 5,000+ posts]

Because you're looking through a very small window, expecting side effects to be immediate. And if they're not you see the vaxxes as fine, ok. Strokes and heart attacks due to spike protein clotting can happen right away or months or years later. That's why the typical, historical testing and approval time for vaccines has been on average 10 years.

And by the way, most hospitalizations today are for those vaxxed.

These will help explain it -

Share the info your lens sees. Data on the thousands who are dying from being vaxed. Autopsy reports, Certificates Of Death, etc.

The last argument was that the vax is useless and hone in too short a time, but now it is still active for years?
Which one is it? Gone quickly, or around for years?

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

The last argument was that the vax is useless and hone in too short a time, but now it is still active for years?
Which one is it? Gone quickly, or around for years?

I’m gonna stop your twist right there. Any vaccine immunity is gone quickly, but negative side effects can take years to present themselves. Go sit on a cactus; you know exactly what he’s saying.

 

[RobGMN 5,000+ posts]

If they had waited just those 2 years all the side effects would have been revealed and I don't think there's any way they could have approved it.

They DID wait two years. 1953-1955. Two.
What are all these side effects you speak of?
Roughly 93% of the US population has had 3+ doses of the polio vax. Since 1955.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

The DID wait two years. 1953-1955. Two.
What are all these side effects you speak of?
Roughly 93% of the US population has had 3+ doses of the polio vax. Since 1955.

What type of vaccine is the polio vaccine? I bet you it’s not the type where artificial genetics wrapped in lipid nanoparticles are made to program and instruct your cells.

 

[moe3152]

Share the info your lens sees. Data on the thousands who are dying from being vaxed. Autopsy reports, Certificates Of Death, etc.

The last argument was that the vax is useless and hone in too short a time, but now it is still active for years?
Which one is it? Gone quickly, or around for years?

Depends on who has control of the CDC and FDA. It's their decision.

 

[moe3152]

What type of vaccine is the polio vaccine? I bet you it’s not the type where artificial genetics wrapped in lipid nanoparticles are made to program and instruct your cells.

It doesn't really matter what type it is. They all need to be tested for long term effects, whether 2 years or 10 years. Don't forget there was a polio pandemic at the time so it was rushed in. But it still took 2 years. Can't say that about the covid jabs.

 

[RobGMN 5,000+ posts]

I’m gonna stop your twist right there. Any vaccine immunity is gone quickly, but negative side effects can take years to present themselves. Go sit on a cactus; you know exactly what he’s saying.

Still a major contradiction.
What vaccine was found to cause long-term issues and is thus no longer used?

 

[RobGMN 5,000+ posts]

Depends on who has control of the CDC and FDA. It's their decision.

That’s not a terribly strong support of the theory you presented.
Can you share any facts that support the theory, or is this just another case of “IYKYK” and the secrets are all held by the deep state?

 

[RobGMN 5,000+ posts]

It doesn't really matter what type it is. They all need to be tested for long term effects, whether 2 years or 10 years. Don't forget there was a polio pandemic at the time so it was rushed in. But it still took 2 years. Can't say that about the covid jabs.

There was no pandermic when the COVID jab was created?