What is?

[SlugButter]

No, but I've spent hours digging thru CDC in an effort to understand the data, in particular the death counts. Clearly you haven't read how deaths Covid deaths are counted, CDC has made it clear that aren't counting guys who died in car accidents with Covid as Covid deaths. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you weren't lying, but it does mean you're making claims with out first checking to see if they're founded in fact.

its the way the funding works. If someone with heart problems goes to the hospital and dies from a heart attack, and they test positive for Covid, it’s counted as a Covid death. Covid exacerbated the heart problems and the hospital deserves funding for treating that patient for Covid, even though he technically died from heart disease. Lots of people with Covid died from other factors that wasn’t Covid, but if they treat someone for 2 weeks and that person ultimately dies of a stroke, the hospital still needs to recoup themselves for resources spent treating Covid. This type of funding can easily be corrupted and misused, so it isn’t a stretch for some people to want the funding to be monitored better. It’s not like our government and private business has been super honest about our money over the years. The trust that Dems have in our institutions is puzzling to me a bit. Prior to Obama, one of the staples of liberals was to question authority relentlessly. Now, that same authority cant be questioned, because apparently their facts are now gospel. The national politics has flipped in a really weird way.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

It's not the vaccine that turned us against each other. It's politicians and propagandist.

How scientific

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

No, but I've spent hours digging thru CDC in an effort to understand the data, in particular the death counts. Clearly you haven't read how deaths Covid deaths are counted, CDC has made it clear that aren't counting guys who died in car accidents with Covid as Covid deaths. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you weren't lying, but it does mean you're making claims with out first checking to see if they're founded in fact.

CDC lies man. CDC lies a lot, and it’s not a legislative body, yet is making health laws for us, basically. That’s called corruption.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I thought we proved that there really isn't any evidence to support these accusations that Dems were stuffing the ballot boxes. Here we are again making up reasons for losing an election that has yet to be lost.

Having a discussion and sharing opinions isn't proving anything. Was that your goal when you joined that conversation... to prove it wrong and not actually discuss it? I never conceded anything in that conversation to say there wasn't enough evidence. In fact I stated I think there is more than enough valid and verifiable scientific evidence to investigate it.

What you just responded to was a prediction to the upcoming mid-terms. A different election where I think it is not far fetched that the far left will again resort to unethical and criminal tactics to attempt another steal. This is my opinion... guess what I don't have to do with it.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

CDC lies man. CDC lies a lot, and it’s not a legislative body, yet is making health laws for us, basically. That’s called corruption.

Or so you say. There are "millions" of examples of non-legislative bodies making rules for us to live by - SEC, CDC, FDA, ATF, etc. And for most of those organizations, there is an equivalent at the state level. I guess you'll have to go buy your own private island to escape all this corruption.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Having a discussion and sharing opinions isn't proving anything. Was that your goal when you joined that conversation... to prove it wrong and not actually discuss it? I never conceded anything in that conversation to say there wasn't enough evidence. In fact I stated I think there is more than enough valid and verifiable scientific evidence to investigate it.

What you just responded to was a prediction to the upcoming mid-terms. A different election where I think it is not far fetched that the far left will again resort to unethical and criminal tactics to attempt another steal. This is my opinion... guess what I don't have to do with it.

There is a reason D'Souza and Truth the Vote haven't bothered to follow thru that very simple final step that is sitting there before them for anybody to see. They already know the truth and the truth is they have no evidence to prove the election was stolen. Luckily for them they do have plenty of true believers like yourself to keep them in business.

And of course only the left engages in these tactics. No conservative would ever stuff a ballot box. Since the election is about to be stolen again and since mail in ballots aren't going away, I guess the neo-conservatives are left with but one choice. You guys are going to have take up arms and overthrow the illegal gov't.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

There is a reason D'Souza and Truth the Vote haven't bothered to follow thru that very simple final step that is sitting there before them for anybody to see. They already know the truth and the truth is they have no evidence to prove the election was stolen. Luckily for them they do have plenty of true believers like yourself to keep them in business.

And of course only the left engages in these tactics. No conservative would ever stuff a ballot box. Since the election is about to be stolen again and since mail in ballots aren't going away, I guess the neo-conservatives are left with but one choice. You guys are going to have take up arms and overthrow the illegal gov't.

I know... you people need all the proof right now. Smart people will gather ALL the evidence they need if and when they decide to take something to trial. You know, build the case. You are right though. It is in the best interest of criminals on BOTH sides of the political pond to keep the status quo.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

I know... you people need all the proof right now. Smart people will gather ALL the evidence they need if and when they decide to take something to trial. You know, build the case. You are right though. It is in the best interest of criminals on BOTH sides of the political pond to keep the status quo.

Do I want all the proof - sure you've accused the left of not just stealing the 2020 election but laying the ground work to steal 2022. Those are serious accusations, so yes I expect proof of such accusations.

Real journalist will put together the whole story, like Woodward and Bernstein did. My local journalist do it all the time. Hacks like D'Souza (who himself has committed election fraud) or Michael Moore will present ~1/2 the facts and selectively fill in the blanks to create a narrative that fits their agenda because there are always willing suckers who just want to hear what they want to hear.

What D'Souza and the rest of the "Stolen Election" hacks are doing is no different than what the BLM hacks did. Present half the facts, spin away and create false narrative to piss off the masses. What I find ironic is people who can see the holes in BLM's narrative cannot for some reason see when it's D'Souza pulling the wool over their eyes.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Or so you say. There are "millions" of examples of non-legislative bodies making rules for us to live by - SEC, CDC, FDA, ATF, etc. And for most of those organizations, there is an equivalent at the state level. I guess you'll have to go buy your own private island to escape all this corruption.

Nah, with the AI tracking systems, there’s no way to hide. Our entire planet is absolutely surrounded by satellites, like how SKYNET started.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

The lies continue to stack up:

‘“One of the things that’s clear from the data is that, even though vaccines, because of the high degree of transmissibility of this virus, don’t protect overly well, as it were, against infection, they protect quite well against severe disease leading to hospitalization and death,” Fauci responded.

It’s important to remember that we’re not far removed from a time when authorities insisted that vaccines were “100 per cent safe and effective” and anyone who challenged that narrative was demonized as an anti-vaxxer.’

ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

The lies continue to stack up:

‘“One of the things that’s clear from the data is that, even though vaccines, because of the high degree of transmissibility of this virus, don’t protect overly well, as it were, against infection, they protect quite well against severe disease leading to hospitalization and death,” Fauci responded.

It’s important to remember that we’re not far removed from a time when authorities insisted that vaccines were “100 per cent safe and effective” and anyone who challenged that narrative was demonized as an anti-vaxxer.’

ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

RIGHT ON F*CKING TIME:

‘The World Health Organisation is urging governments to reinstate Covid measures like masking and ventilation as its leader speaks of concerns over an “increasing trend of deaths”.’

WHO chief urges 'bring back face masks' as Covid pandemic 'nowhere near over'

As Covid-19 cases and deaths rise, the WHO director-general Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus urged governments to bring back measures as the pandemic is 'nowhere near over'

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Covid World Order

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Covid World Order

‘The number of weekly COVID-19 deaths reported in Los Angeles County has doubled over the last month — the first significant increase in fatalities since the winter surge.’

L.A. County coronavirus deaths rising fast as ultra-contagious BA.5 fuels infection wave

Weekly COVID-19 deaths doubled in Los Angeles County over the last month, to 100 from 50 a week.

www.latimes.com

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Nah, with the AI tracking systems, there’s no way to hide. Our entire planet is absolutely surrounded by satellites, like how SKYNET started.

Go underground, literally underground.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

The lies continue to stack up:

‘“One of the things that’s clear from the data is that, even though vaccines, because of the high degree of transmissibility of this virus, don’t protect overly well, as it were, against infection, they protect quite well against severe disease leading to hospitalization and death,” Fauci responded.

It’s important to remember that we’re not far removed from a time when authorities insisted that vaccines were “100 per cent safe and effective” and anyone who challenged that narrative was demonized as an anti-vaxxer.’

ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

Do you understand that the virus has mutated? Covid is here to stay.