What is?

[SlugButter]

Now, go Google something and pretend real life wasn’t real, but your google searches are. Vaccines were barely even spoken about in politics, but Rob wants to convince us that we just didn’t hear what was going on before 2016.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

That’s a bs narrative of yours. Parents have always had the choice to vaccinate their children or not. Jenny McCarthy has been anti-vax for years. Many many religious people arent vaccinated. Do you really still want to require a Covid vaccination that doesn’t stop Covid? Don’t you know the difference between polio and a mutating seasonal virus?

No, it’s not a “bs narrative”, it’s law, on the books. This is a SCOTUS decision regarding it from 1905. History, not “fake news”.

https://tile.loc.gov/storage-services/service/ll/usrep/usrep197/usrep197011/usrep197011.pdf

Another decision from 1922:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zucht_v._King

Religious exemption can be granted for people whose religion doesn’t allow for vaccination. You can’t just say “Religious exemption” and be exempt. For example, a Catholic cannot claim religious exemption when the Pope himself is recommending vaccination, as there is nothing in Catholicism’s tenets that woul prohibit it.

Science has shown the vaccine works with empirical evidence. Do you have proof otherwise? You should share it if you do, instead of just making claims and not backing them up.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Now, go Google something and pretend real life wasn’t real, but your google searches are. Vaccines were barely even spoken about in politics, but Rob wants to convince us that we just didn’t hear what was going on before 2016.

Would you be happier if I went to the library and took a picture of a page in an encyclopedia? Are you stuck in 1994 or something?

SCOTUS document from 1905:https://tile.loc.gov/storage-services/service/ll/usrep/usrep197/usrep197011/usrep197011.pdf

 

[SlugButter]

No, it’s not a “bs narrative”, it’s law, on the books. This is a SCOTUS decision regarding it from 1905. History, not “fake news”.

https://tile.loc.gov/storage-services/service/ll/usrep/usrep197/usrep197011/usrep197011.pdf

Another decision from 1922:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zucht_v._King

Religious exemption can be granted for people whose religion doesn’t allow for vaccination. You can’t just say “Religious exemption” and be exempt. For example, a Catholic cannot claim religious exemption when the Pope himself is recommending vaccination, as there is nothing in Catholicism’s tenets that woul prohibit it.

Science has shown the vaccine works with empirical evidence. Do you have proof otherwise? You should share it if you do, instead of just making claims and not backing them up.

The man paid a 5$ fine Rob. He wasn’t forced to vaccinate or stay home. If all I need to dois pay a fine to not take the Covid vaccine, I would pay it. Maybe not try to use obscure Massachusetts Supreme Court decisions either, then try to pass it off as if it’s a decision that the Supreme Court made to ammened the Constitution of the United States. They even limited this decision to this one single case, and it wasn’t a law for the whole state. Says it in the final paragraphs of the statute.

 

[SlugButter]

I bet oral *** is still illegal on the books as law in some states. States do stupid shit all the time.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I bet oral *** is still illegal on the books as law in some states. States do stupid shit all the time.

No argument there.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

The man paid a 5$ fine Rob. He wasn’t forced to vaccinate or stay home. If all I need to dois pay a fine to not take the Covid vaccine, I would pay it. Maybe not try to use obscure Massachusetts Supreme Court decisions either, then try to pass it off as if it’s a decision that the Supreme Court made to ammened the Constitution of the United States. They even limited this decision to this one single case, and it wasn’t a law for the whole state. Says it in the final paragraphs of the statute.

The fine is irrelevant. It’s the decision that matters. Decisions are used as precedent for future hearings and can actually stop attempts to even take a challenge to court.

OK, so which of the 50 US states do not require vaccination for kids to go to school?

Which immigrants are allowed legal entrance to the United States without being vaccinated for specific disease/illness?

Which states require the influenza vaccine for healthcare workers? (Hint: there are NINETEEN)

 

[SlugButter]

The gone us irrelevant. It’s the decision that matters. Decisions are used as precedent for future hearings and can actually stop attempts to even take a challenge to court.

OK, so which of the 50 US states do not require vaccination for kids to go to school?

Which immigrants are allowed legal entrance to the United States without being vaccinated for specific disease/illness?

Which states require the influenza vaccine for healthcare workers? (Hint: there are NINETEEN)

the Covid vaccine does not work to stop Covid from existing Rob. It’s a seasonal virus. There is an argument to be made for hospitals to make individual decisions on employment based on it, but I’ve never been required to get a flu shot before every school year. You’re trying to compare polio and diphtheria vaccines to a seasonal virus vaccine. Requiring Covid vaccines would be a yearly requirement like a flu vaccine is, so no, that has never happened In any of the 5 states I’ve lived in.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

the Covid vaccine does not work to stop Covid from existing Rob. It’s a seasonal virus. There is an argument to be made for hospitals to make individual decisions on employment based on it, but I’ve never been required to get a flu shot before every school year. You’re trying to compare polio and diphtheria vaccines to a seasonal virus vaccine. Requiring Covid vaccines would be a yearly requirement like a flu vaccine is, so no, that has never happened In any of the 5 states I’ve lived in.

No, you are making that comparison. We are speaking on the legality of mandated vaccines and whether or not they are a new thing.
19 states require hospital workers to have the flu shot by law.
50 states require children to have vaccines to go to school. It’s law. And it’s not new.

The efficacy of the Covid vaccine is not a discussion as it’s already been proved. If you or Thx can provide proof otherwise, go ahead and post it if that is what you want to claim. Claiming it without being able to prove it makes one look really dumb, though.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

"Contrary to the CDC’s claim that the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines do not “change or interact with your DNA in any way,” a new Swedish study finds Pfizer’s shot goes into liver cells and converts to DNA."

Study: Pfizer COVID shot converts into DNA in human cells

Contrary to the CDC's claim that the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines do not "change or interact with your DNA in any way," a new Swedish study finds Pfizer's shot goes into liver cells and converts to DNA.

www.clarkcountytoday.com

"The CDC assures Americans that the mRNA and the spike protein it produces in COVID-19 vaccines to create an immune response “don’t last long in the body.” On its website, the agency states: “Our cells break down mRNA and get rid of it within a few days after vaccination. Scientists estimate that the spike protein, like other proteins our bodies create, may stay in the body up to a few weeks.”

"However, the researchers at Lund University in Malmö, Sweden, found that the mRNA vaccine enters human liver cells and triggers the cell’s DNA in the nucleus to increase the production of the LINE-1 gene expression to make mRNA.
The whole process occurred rapidly, within six hours, concluded the study, which was published by the university’s Department of Clinical Sciences."

"The Swedish researchers also concluded the spike proteins expressed on the surface of the liver cells through the vaccine could target the immune system and possibly cause autoimmune hepatitis."

What’s Causing A Sudden Outbreak Of Hepatitis In Kids In Europe And The US?

Outbreaks of severe hepatitis (liver inflammation) are being seen in children younger than 10 in Europe and Alabama. The question is why?

www.forbes.com

Outbreaks of hepatitis A across the U.S. | CDC

There is currently a person to person outbreak of Hepatitis A in the US. Learn more about transmission, postexposure prophylaxis and vaccination guidance.

www.cdc.gov

"THE mystery hepatitis outbreak has started spreading across Europe and the US, after dozens of cases were found in the UK."

New warning as mystery hepatitis outbreak spreads across Europe and US

THE mystery hepatitis outbreak has started spreading across Europe and the US, after dozens of cases were found in the UK. It is still not clear what has sparked the dangerous infection to rise in …

www.thesun.co.uk

Oh yeah, it sure is a mystery

 

[SlugButter]

No, you are making that comparison. We are speaking on the legality of mandated vaccines and whether or not they are a new thing.
19 states require hospital workers to have the flu shot by law.
50 states require children to have vaccines to go to school. It’s law. And it’s not new.

The efficacy of the Covid vaccine is not a discussion as it’s already been proved. If you or Thx can provide proof otherwise, go ahead and post it if that is what you want to claim. Claiming it without being able to prove it makes one look really dumb, though.

I don’t have to prove anything. The vaccine has to prove its 5 year efficacy before I even consider taking it. Prior to 2020 that was the standard.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

"Contrary to the CDC’s claim that the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines do not “change or interact with your DNA in any way,” a new Swedish study finds Pfizer’s shot goes into liver cells and converts to DNA."

Study: Pfizer COVID shot converts into DNA in human cells

Contrary to the CDC's claim that the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines do not "change or interact with your DNA in any way," a new Swedish study finds Pfizer's shot goes into liver cells and converts to DNA.

www.clarkcountytoday.com

"The CDC assures Americans that the mRNA and the spike protein it produces in COVID-19 vaccines to create an immune response “don’t last long in the body.” On its website, the agency states: “Our cells break down mRNA and get rid of it within a few days after vaccination. Scientists estimate that the spike protein, like other proteins our bodies create, may stay in the body up to a few weeks.”

"However, the researchers at Lund University in Malmö, Sweden, found that the mRNA vaccine enters human liver cells and triggers the cell’s DNA in the nucleus to increase the production of the LINE-1 gene expression to make mRNA.
The whole process occurred rapidly, within six hours, concluded the study, which was published by the university’s Department of Clinical Sciences."

"The Swedish researchers also concluded the spike proteins expressed on the surface of the liver cells through the vaccine could target the immune system and possibly cause autoimmune hepatitis."

What’s Causing A Sudden Outbreak Of Hepatitis In Kids In Europe And The US?

Outbreaks of severe hepatitis (liver inflammation) are being seen in children younger than 10 in Europe and Alabama. The question is why?

www.forbes.com

Outbreaks of hepatitis A across the U.S. | CDC

There is currently a person to person outbreak of Hepatitis A in the US. Learn more about transmission, postexposure prophylaxis and vaccination guidance.

www.cdc.gov

"THE mystery hepatitis outbreak has started spreading across Europe and the US, after dozens of cases were found in the UK."

New warning as mystery hepatitis outbreak spreads across Europe and US

THE mystery hepatitis outbreak has started spreading across Europe and the US, after dozens of cases were found in the UK. It is still not clear what has sparked the dangerous infection to rise in …

www.thesun.co.uk

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Don’t you just love it when forced vaccinations give kids hepatitis? Sure makes my day.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power

Rumours of a link between the US first family and the Nazi war machine have circulated for decades. Now the Guardian can reveal how repercussions of events that culminated in action under the Trading with the Enemy Act are still being felt by today's president.

amp.theguardian.com

https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP88-01070R000100200004-9.pdf

“Documents and other evidence from US-funded laboratories in Ukraine suggest that Kiev was planning to use drones to deploy pathogens against the Donbass as well as Russia, the Russian Defense Ministry said on Wednesday.”

Ukraine: US Biowarfare Labs Developed Disease Delivering Drones (DDD?) | VT Foreign Policy

www.veteranstoday.com

https://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/US-lifts-ban-on-funding-neo-Nazi-Ukrainian-militia-441884

They always forget to mention the Nazi Eugenics part of all of this. Wonder why?

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power

Rumours of a link between the US first family and the Nazi war machine have circulated for decades. Now the Guardian can reveal how repercussions of events that culminated in action under the Trading with the Enemy Act are still being felt by today's president.

amp.theguardian.com

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“Documents and other evidence from US-funded laboratories in Ukraine suggest that Kiev was planning to use drones to deploy pathogens against the Donbass as well as Russia, the Russian Defense Ministry said on Wednesday.”

Ukraine: US Biowarfare Labs Developed Disease Delivering Drones (DDD?) | VT Foreign Policy

www.veteranstoday.com

https://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/US-lifts-ban-on-funding-neo-Nazi-Ukrainian-militia-441884

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They always forget to mention the Nazi Eugenics part of all of this. Wonder why?

What speech, on what day, in what location did Kennedy make this statement?
On the day it was CLAIMED to have happened, he did not speak publicly anywhere.
No historian has been able to locate this in any if his speeches.

Can you back it up?