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Message: <blockquote data-quote="95stroked1500" data-source="post: 2755757" data-attributes="member: 569805">how many of you (cause i know i'm not the only one) have used brand X for years. then either they decide to make a change, or they get bought and make a change. suddenly, their new crap has repeatable constant problems. obvious area that needs fixed.so you call them and ask them what they're doing about this problem. they tell you there is no problem. yes, this is the problem and this is why it's happening, this is what you need to do. no, we did that because of this and that. ok, well forget this and that, your design has issues, fix it. no, we did that for this and that. figure something else out then, like this. no, that would increase production cost.then a year later, hardly anyone wants to touch their stuff.so tell me, how many times are you going to go through this with multiple american companies over the years before you come to the realization of the big picture? and i'm not saying this isn't a problem only in this country. i'm saying this country has a problem of it.how many times have you came across some engineers idea, who has no practicle clue of the real world? i used to work with one and he cost this company a lot of money before he got canned. and it just doesn't have to refer to audio, because they're in every field. and if you have never came across that problem, you have more life you need to live. just cause they're book smart, has a degree, doesn't mean they have hands on real world common sense. just because they have a doctorite, doesn't mean they are god status and cannot be wrong.i'm not dragging down the one's that are good. or those that go re-test, and fix the problem.just cause i have a european friend who is awesome at what he does, and i commented on what i see is a common mentality in this country, doesn't mean i said europe is so great and we ****. so quit trying to turn it into that.i never said i was an expert designer. but i've been to enough rodeo's, talked with enough real cowboys, got in on a ride or 2 myself, to know there's a difference between a mechanical bull and real one. and isn't that what this whole thing started over? real world building vs computer simulations?i've decided to edit in a rant.first people are telling some other very experienced guy, that their modeling programs says one driver is better than the other and his real world experience is wrong.that's where i stepped in with bs about pure modeling approach not being 100% accurate. wether that case of the sub being better or not isn't important to me. it's the fact of people on the mind set that their simulations are gold and there's nothing else about it.then people are saying spider has nothing to do with sound and spider design isn't hard. they want some examples. then they want to argue about it, they don't like that either. they want to pick out context and get their panties in a bunch over things. expand the direction of the arguement.then they don't like to hear about the uglier side of this industry. it's there, it's not a ghost. just cause we are the most technologically advanced country and can do a lot of great things, doesn't mean there's not someone else that can do something better.too bad. i've seen what i've seen and i'll tell it how i saw/see it. wether you want to like it or accept it. before you start trying to attack me, go investigate or learn a part of it and then you can translate what you learn about it. aside from things you learn on the net.there's a whole bunch in this industry who only understand and spout the science side of things that can be predicted. that by itself is only a half truth.  then they bully and confuse the little guys who are trying to learn.  just cause these other guys can't defend themselves against that type of background doesn't make it true.</blockquote>

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