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<blockquote data-quote="95stroked1500" data-source="post: 2755343" data-attributes="member: 569805">you don&#039;t have to get so aggro over a generalized statement. i never said there werent&#039; bad european&#039;s and there weren&#039;t good american builders. i did say there were good american builders. just cause i didn&#039;t label them, and to your list there&#039;s also OZ audio, DD, mmats, zapco, ultra, and so on. just cause i commented on the mass lot of the one&#039;s i don&#039;t think too much of, doesn&#039;t mean i have a commi flag.yeah, i can have my opinion about some in this industry. there&#039;s been several times during the years i&#039;ve butted heads with brands i&#039;ve dealt with &quot;Dr&#039;s&quot; as they call themselves. and it can be the simplest things they needed to change to improve the product to be more usable or marketable. and i tell you what, some of those guys will not do it because it isn&#039;t there idea or it will cost them an extra 2 cents on the production line. which left things only suitable for 1 application instead of the reliability or verstality they could have had. but hey, each his own.and there are a few stateside companies that are very open to suggestions that are real world. and if it&#039;s practicle, you can see those changes to their products as soon as they can revise them. and that doesn&#039;t matter if it&#039;s me or you who passed the idea along. those guys are great to work with.i&#039;m no industry great or a who&#039;s who. but if you&#039;ve seen some of things i have, maybe you would have a better understanding of why i can be so synnical about things.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="95stroked1500, post: 2755343, member: 569805"] you don't have to get so aggro over a generalized statement. i never said there werent' bad european's and there weren't good american builders. i did say there were good american builders. just cause i didn't label them, and to your list there's also OZ audio, DD, mmats, zapco, ultra, and so on. just cause i commented on the mass lot of the one's i don't think too much of, doesn't mean i have a commi flag. yeah, i can have my opinion about some in this industry. there's been several times during the years i've butted heads with brands i've dealt with "Dr's" as they call themselves. and it can be the simplest things they needed to change to improve the product to be more usable or marketable. and i tell you what, some of those guys will not do it because it isn't there idea or it will cost them an extra 2 cents on the production line. which left things only suitable for 1 application instead of the reliability or verstality they could have had. but hey, each his own. and there are a few stateside companies that are very open to suggestions that are real world. and if it's practicle, you can see those changes to their products as soon as they can revise them. and that doesn't matter if it's me or you who passed the idea along. those guys are great to work with. i'm no industry great or a who's who. but if you've seen some of things i have, maybe you would have a better understanding of why i can be so synnical about things. [/QUOTE]

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