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<blockquote data-quote="audioholic" data-source="post: 2750575" data-attributes="member: 549629"><p>I see. So you come here and spout this stuff about the nuances of spider design, this 'art' as you call it, but can't/wont even begin to say what/where/how this takes place? When I ask you to simply explain what you are talking about, your reply is to learn it myself. lol </p><p>Oh sure, all the top speaker makers know about it, but to even allude to it being about material properties, weave types, spring rates or anything else would just be giving away waaaay too much info to be professional. Have I got your story right? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif Forgive me if I dont bow down and kiss your feet for sharing ... absolutely nothing ... with us.</p><p></p><p>All Ive asked you to do is back up your words with any sort of facts, explainations... or anything. Nope, all you give is vague and repetitive answers with an attitude.</p><p></p><p>I never said the spider wasn't important, I stated it needs to be seen in its proper perspective. You seem to think its the end-all answer to the 'sound characteristics' of a speaker, its not.</p><p>You dont seem to think you need to justify anything, even your own claims. Nobody asked you to prove what you knew until you came here making this claim. You dont need to explain your position beyond some guy from Europe told you, you dont even feel the need to explain your experience... just come here and state whatever you wish, and god forbid anyone question you or your words.</p><p>How would mentioning this person's name, simply a guy who taught you some things about speaker design, be unprofessional? Are you suggesting he told you things he shouldn't have? Is there something to hide, or is it just a smoke screen to brush off backing up your words?</p><p></p><p>Please point out to me where I stated one sub was 'better' than another based on specs alone. If you are referring to the flat BL and distortion comments, those are facts, irrefutable. Or do you say otherwise? I have NEVER lead from that to the conclusion sub A was "better" than sub B. As a matter of fact, I made a post citing the difference between sound accuracy/SQ and sound preference. Ive also mentioned that I personally prefer the sound of non BL optimized drivers, even with their added distortion. So please, spare me. You are trying to argue a point I (and Warbleed) never made, and have repeated pointed out we were NOT making. reading &gt; you</p><p>Im not trying to be hostile, but seriously, you are not being very reasonable. If you expect people to take you serious, you should be able to post some information about your position.</p><p></p><p>Lastly, do <strong>you</strong> also feel American speaker manufacturers cant get it right? Or just your buddy? Im curious.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="audioholic, post: 2750575, member: 549629"] I see. So you come here and spout this stuff about the nuances of spider design, this 'art' as you call it, but can't/wont even begin to say what/where/how this takes place? When I ask you to simply explain what you are talking about, your reply is to learn it myself. lol Oh sure, all the top speaker makers know about it, but to even allude to it being about material properties, weave types, spring rates or anything else would just be giving away waaaay too much info to be professional. Have I got your story right? [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif[/IMG] Forgive me if I dont bow down and kiss your feet for sharing ... absolutely nothing ... with us. All Ive asked you to do is back up your words with any sort of facts, explainations... or anything. Nope, all you give is vague and repetitive answers with an attitude. I never said the spider wasn't important, I stated it needs to be seen in its proper perspective. You seem to think its the end-all answer to the 'sound characteristics' of a speaker, its not. You dont seem to think you need to justify anything, even your own claims. Nobody asked you to prove what you knew until you came here making this claim. You dont need to explain your position beyond some guy from Europe told you, you dont even feel the need to explain your experience... just come here and state whatever you wish, and god forbid anyone question you or your words. How would mentioning this person's name, simply a guy who taught you some things about speaker design, be unprofessional? Are you suggesting he told you things he shouldn't have? Is there something to hide, or is it just a smoke screen to brush off backing up your words? Please point out to me where I stated one sub was 'better' than another based on specs alone. If you are referring to the flat BL and distortion comments, those are facts, irrefutable. Or do you say otherwise? I have NEVER lead from that to the conclusion sub A was "better" than sub B. As a matter of fact, I made a post citing the difference between sound accuracy/SQ and sound preference. Ive also mentioned that I personally prefer the sound of non BL optimized drivers, even with their added distortion. So please, spare me. You are trying to argue a point I (and Warbleed) never made, and have repeated pointed out we were NOT making. reading > you Im not trying to be hostile, but seriously, you are not being very reasonable. If you expect people to take you serious, you should be able to post some information about your position. Lastly, do [B]you[/B] also feel American speaker manufacturers cant get it right? Or just your buddy? Im curious. [/QUOTE]
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