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<blockquote data-quote="Moble Enclosurs" data-source="post: 7462225" data-attributes="member: 634917"><p>There was a saying that says "Liberty is the possibility of doubting, of making a mistake,... of searching and experimenting,... of saying No to any authority - literary, artistic, philosophical, religious, social, and even political." To this, is the reason why you argue. you know you can but feel you are not allowed to, thus giving you the reason to feel right about what you say, in which case, you are. We all are. It's opinion against truth. The confusion of your reasoning makes my attempt to explain much more difficult. I do care what is said about my purpose to be free, and I do take it personally. Do I let it consume my emotions so much to not be able to function, or am I going to Photoshop his face with some rude quote explaining the best of how I feel and post it as my avatar? Not at all. This would only justify his reason for what he said, in which it should not be justified. People make mistakes. My question is, if he is sorry for what he said, then doesn't that make it wrong...that he feels it was a mistake? if he felt correct about what he said, regardless of the intention, then an apology would not be given. The right man would sacrifice his career for what is right...if it were. That shows me that it only justifies the intention was meant to be harmful. Because that is what we do in the military is sacrafice for what is right, whether others do not see the reason for it, we continue because we believe we can help. When someone does not respect what we do, we feel as we have failed, and yes taking that personally is what is felt by us. We feel that we have failed in giving you a free life because of the loss of respect. i do not care how crooked the government is. I really do not. That would be like worrying if my boss at my current job sells dope on the side. it has nothing to do with me personally. I still have to follow orders, and in doing so, I feel right about it. Again man, I hate war, I hate that we went over there again, or why they put us in the line of fighting for what? This so called freedom? I get it. We are far from as free as we would like to be, I cannot change that alone. And the fact that our service is used for some pretty grimey **** disgustst me. But again affect nothing about my intentions for being there, as they differ greatly from what is really behind the curtains. So, when someone puts me or my family of servicemen down for what we do, when they do not understand the reasoning is much different in the minds of those who serve vs the actual job itself, it a test of my appreciation for them as well. Again man, not trying to argue or anything, but if you do not get why that upsets us, don't worry about it yourself...you are less involved than I am...think about that one and then ponder why YOU should feel the way you do. Then you might understand why what I am saying is right. I am not saying you shouldn't speak up, in fact, keep it coming if you like. Your free to do that at your own pace. But on that note, do not attempt to stop me from using the same freedom in a much more viable fashion.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Moble Enclosurs, post: 7462225, member: 634917"] There was a saying that says "Liberty is the possibility of doubting, of making a mistake,... of searching and experimenting,... of saying No to any authority - literary, artistic, philosophical, religious, social, and even political." To this, is the reason why you argue. you know you can but feel you are not allowed to, thus giving you the reason to feel right about what you say, in which case, you are. We all are. It's opinion against truth. The confusion of your reasoning makes my attempt to explain much more difficult. I do care what is said about my purpose to be free, and I do take it personally. Do I let it consume my emotions so much to not be able to function, or am I going to Photoshop his face with some rude quote explaining the best of how I feel and post it as my avatar? Not at all. This would only justify his reason for what he said, in which it should not be justified. People make mistakes. My question is, if he is sorry for what he said, then doesn't that make it wrong...that he feels it was a mistake? if he felt correct about what he said, regardless of the intention, then an apology would not be given. The right man would sacrifice his career for what is right...if it were. That shows me that it only justifies the intention was meant to be harmful. Because that is what we do in the military is sacrafice for what is right, whether others do not see the reason for it, we continue because we believe we can help. When someone does not respect what we do, we feel as we have failed, and yes taking that personally is what is felt by us. We feel that we have failed in giving you a free life because of the loss of respect. i do not care how crooked the government is. I really do not. That would be like worrying if my boss at my current job sells dope on the side. it has nothing to do with me personally. I still have to follow orders, and in doing so, I feel right about it. Again man, I hate war, I hate that we went over there again, or why they put us in the line of fighting for what? This so called freedom? I get it. We are far from as free as we would like to be, I cannot change that alone. And the fact that our service is used for some pretty grimey **** disgustst me. But again affect nothing about my intentions for being there, as they differ greatly from what is really behind the curtains. So, when someone puts me or my family of servicemen down for what we do, when they do not understand the reasoning is much different in the minds of those who serve vs the actual job itself, it a test of my appreciation for them as well. Again man, not trying to argue or anything, but if you do not get why that upsets us, don't worry about it yourself...you are less involved than I am...think about that one and then ponder why YOU should feel the way you do. Then you might understand why what I am saying is right. I am not saying you shouldn't speak up, in fact, keep it coming if you like. Your free to do that at your own pace. But on that note, do not attempt to stop me from using the same freedom in a much more viable fashion. [/QUOTE]
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