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Message: <blockquote data-quote="12voltz+-" data-source="post: 6845777" data-attributes="member: 573148">i feelin on this is from what i here eclipes has already pulled out of the us market and are only dealing with the European area how true this is im not sure? as well as i heard the same from alpine that they might do the same and also pull out..... Panasonic is already done with 12v so no more radios........ pioneer and there notorious problem for there pico fuse sucks, whether is installer error or not, just a pain in the *** to sell it to a consumer and have them come back like WTF??? as well as there overalll crappy sound from a lot of there newer unitsI LOVE my kenwood HU especially the execlone.... also JVC makes some solid radio for the money as well the kdr900 is very nice..... Clarion is stil around and make a few decent units also....</blockquote>

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