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Message: <blockquote data-quote="nineball" data-source="post: 5543272" data-attributes="member: 585829">you obviously have problems installing and tuning systems. i have a 10 year old pair of jl 10w0 subs that pound just as hard today as they did when new, and have been in 3 vehicles. with less than 200rms to each they broke 140 on many occasions.OP, if you buy carefully and do your research you will be able to build a fine system for a reasonable price. i paid $99 per sub when they were brand new. please don't get caught in the "you need at least 1000-3000 watt to pound" school of thought. i laugh at the people who brag about how badass their system is simply because they have a huge amp powering some subs. power does not equal quality. installation, box building and tuning will give you quality sound.</blockquote>

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