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Which one of these 3 speakers i should choose? Audison vs eton vs ground zero speakers 6.5"
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<blockquote data-quote="mio" data-source="post: 8757707" data-attributes="member: 655266"><p>Hi , i will upgrade my speakers so , please tell me your personal opinion so i dont make costly mistake.</p><p>here is my current set up,</p><p>p99rs,</p><p>mosconi pro 4/10 amp powers speakers ,</p><p>mosconi pico powers the utopia be tweeters,</p><p>audison apbx 10as sub,</p><p>focal utopia be tweeters,</p><p>arc rs 6.0 speakers,</p><p></p><p>morel virtus nano speakers- which will be replaced with pair of these 3 options,</p><p>1st option, audison thesis sax ii,</p><p>specs. of course if someone needs more specs of chart or something there is always a i-net specs option i am not sure if i am allow to post such long things here.</p><p></p><table style='width: 100%'><tr><td>Comp</td><td>Woofer</td></tr><tr><td>Size</td><td>165 mm (6.5″)</td></tr><tr><td>Power Handling</td><td>150 W Continuous Power<br /> 300 W Peak Power</td></tr><tr><td>Impedance</td><td>4 Ω</td></tr><tr><td>Frequency Response</td><td>40 ÷ 4500 Hz</td></tr><tr><td>Sensitivity</td><td>87 dB/Spl</td></tr><tr><td>Magnet</td><td>N48 “H-grade” Neodymium</td></tr><tr><td>Cone</td><td>TPX®</td></tr></table><p></p><p></p><p>Audison is probably the most expensive option but price difference between audison and eton is very minimal.</p><p></p><p>2nd option eton german company .</p><p>model is Called</p><p><span style="font-size: 26px"><strong> eton ONYX 16</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 26px"><strong>specs :</strong></span></p><p></p><table style='width: 100%'><tr><td><p style="text-align: left"><strong>Bass / midrange</strong></p> </td><td><p style="text-align: left">165 mm (6,5")</p> </td></tr><tr><td><p style="text-align: left"><strong>Impedance</strong></p> </td><td><p style="text-align: left">4 Ohm</p> </td></tr><tr><td><p style="text-align: left"><strong>Nominal / music power</strong></p> </td><td><p style="text-align: left">90 / 140 W</p> </td></tr><tr><td><p style="text-align: left"><strong>Sound pressure level</strong></p> </td><td><p style="text-align: left">89 dB</p> </td></tr><tr><td><p style="text-align: left"><strong>Outer diameter</strong></p> </td><td><p style="text-align: left">165 mm</p> </td></tr><tr><td><p style="text-align: left"><strong>Cut-out diameter</strong></p> </td><td><p style="text-align: left">146 mm</p> </td></tr><tr><td><p style="text-align: left"><strong>Installation depth</strong></p> </td><td><p style="text-align: left">79,5 mm</p> </td></tr></table><p>- 165 mm (6,5“) high-end bass/midrange driver - reinforced, ribbed paper cone - handcoated special silk dustcap - symmetrical tindle guiding with silk spider and special ventilated voicecoil former - High-End aluminum die-cast basket with airow optimized ventilation - Powerful neodymium magnet - Nominal / music power 90 / 140 W - Impedance 4 Ohm - Sound pressure level 89 dB - Outer diameter 165 mm - Cut-out diameter 146 mm - Installation depth 79,5 mm</p><p>��������������������������</p><table style='width: 100%'><tr><td>Basket diameter (in mm)</td><td>165</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Installation diameter (in mm)</td><td>147</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Installation depth (in mm)</td><td>80</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Magnet diameter (in mm)</td><td>68</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Membrane material</td><td>paper</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Voice coil</td><td>copper</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Voice coil former</td><td>glass fiber</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>magnet</td><td>Neodymium ring</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>highest separation freq.</td><td>3.5 kHz</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>lowest crossover freq.</td><td>no</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Weight:</td><td>980 g</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Others</td><td>Woofer</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Nominal impedance (in ohms)</td><td>4th</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>DC resistance Rdc (in ohms)</td><td>3.25</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Voice coil inductance Le (in mH)</td><td>0.43</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Voice coil diameter (in mm)</td><td>32</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Membrane area Sd (in cm²)</td><td>139</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Resonance frequency fs (in Hz)</td><td>72</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>mechanical quality Qms</td><td>5.69</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>electrical quality Qes</td><td>5.69</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Total Q factor Qts</td><td>0.76</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Equivalent volume Vas (in l)</td><td>0.67</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Moving mass Mms (in g)</td><td>14.1</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Rms (in kg / s)</td><td>1.12</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Cms (in mm / N)</td><td>0.35</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>B * L (in Tm)</td><td>5.25</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Sound pressure 2V, 1m (in dB)</td><td>87</td></tr></table><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>more information is available into their web site with some charts and things i dont understand.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Last option</p><p>GROUND zero i think this model is available for some time into the market, unfortunately i cant hear any of these and i cant travel to hear them abroad as well so we need to choose them based into their materials and specs wise.</p><p>These components will be imported they arent available anywhere where i live in bg.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Specs of ground zero</p><p><strong>GZUK 165SQ</strong></p><p>are.</p><p><strong>180 Watts max</strong></p><p>6.5″ sound quality midwoofer with GZ aluminum cast basket and aluminum cone</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">6.5″ sound quality midwoofer</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">50 mm / 2″ copper voice coil</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Black anodized aluminum cone</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Linearized neodymium motor</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">GZ design aluminum cast basket</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Universal 4 ohms version</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Incl. GZ designprotection grill</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Gold plated screw terminal</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">1 pair / package</li> </ul><p></p><table style='width: 100%'><tr><th>Model</th><td>Sound quality midwoofer</td></tr><tr><th>Diameter</th><td>165 mm / 6.50"</td></tr><tr><th>Power Handling (RMS/max.)</th><td>120 / 180 Watts</td></tr><tr><th>Impedance</th><td>4 Ohms</td></tr><tr><th>Efficiency</th><td>87 dB</td></tr><tr><th>Frequency Response</th><td><a href="https://www.ground-zero-audio.com/en/frequenzgang/40-hz-3500-hz/" target="_blank">40 Hz – 3500 Hz</a></td></tr><tr><th>Voice Coil</th><td>50 mm / 2" copper</td></tr><tr><th>Membran Layout</th><td><a href="https://www.ground-zero-audio.com/en/membran-ausfuehrung/anodized-aluminum/" target="_blank">anodized aluminum</a></td></tr><tr><th>Magnet material</th><td>Neodymium</td></tr><tr><th>Mounting Ø</th><td><a href="https://www.ground-zero-audio.com/en/einbau-o/144-mm-5-67/" target="_blank">144 mm / 5.67"</a></td></tr><tr><th>Mounting Depth</th><td><a href="https://www.ground-zero-audio.com/en/einbautiefe/63-mm-2-48/" target="_blank">63 mm / 2.48"</a></td></tr><tr><th>Resonance Frequency (Fs)</th><td><a href="https://www.ground-zero-audio.com/en/resonanzfrequenz-fs/54-6-hz/" target="_blank">54.6 Hz</a></td></tr></table><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ground zero are the cheapest</p><p>they cost 2 times less compared to audison, and also their resale value is close to zero,</p><p>keep that in mind.</p><p>if you need more information let me know thanks.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mio, post: 8757707, member: 655266"] Hi , i will upgrade my speakers so , please tell me your personal opinion so i dont make costly mistake. here is my current set up, p99rs, mosconi pro 4/10 amp powers speakers , mosconi pico powers the utopia be tweeters, audison apbx 10as sub, focal utopia be tweeters, arc rs 6.0 speakers, morel virtus nano speakers- which will be replaced with pair of these 3 options, 1st option, audison thesis sax ii, specs. of course if someone needs more specs of chart or something there is always a i-net specs option i am not sure if i am allow to post such long things here. [TABLE] [TR] [TD]Comp[/TD] [TD]Woofer[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Size[/TD] [TD]165 mm (6.5″)[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Power Handling[/TD] [TD]150 W Continuous Power 300 W Peak Power[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Impedance[/TD] [TD]4 Ω[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Frequency Response[/TD] [TD]40 ÷ 4500 Hz[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Sensitivity[/TD] [TD]87 dB/Spl[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Magnet[/TD] [TD]N48 “H-grade” Neodymium[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Cone[/TD] [TD]TPX®[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Audison is probably the most expensive option but price difference between audison and eton is very minimal. 2nd option eton german company . model is Called [SIZE=7][B] eton ONYX 16 specs :[/B][/SIZE] [TABLE] [TR] [TD][LEFT][B]Bass / midrange[/B][/LEFT][/TD] [TD][LEFT]165 mm (6,5")[/LEFT][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][LEFT][B]Impedance[/B][/LEFT][/TD] [TD][LEFT]4 Ohm[/LEFT][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][LEFT][B]Nominal / music power[/B][/LEFT][/TD] [TD][LEFT]90 / 140 W[/LEFT][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][LEFT][B]Sound pressure level[/B][/LEFT][/TD] [TD][LEFT]89 dB[/LEFT][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][LEFT][B]Outer diameter[/B][/LEFT][/TD] [TD][LEFT]165 mm[/LEFT][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][LEFT][B]Cut-out diameter[/B][/LEFT][/TD] [TD][LEFT]146 mm[/LEFT][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][LEFT][B]Installation depth[/B][/LEFT][/TD] [TD][LEFT]79,5 mm[/LEFT][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] - 165 mm (6,5“) high-end bass/midrange driver - reinforced, ribbed paper cone - handcoated special silk dustcap - symmetrical tindle guiding with silk spider and special ventilated voicecoil former - High-End aluminum die-cast basket with airow optimized ventilation - Powerful neodymium magnet - Nominal / music power 90 / 140 W - Impedance 4 Ohm - Sound pressure level 89 dB - Outer diameter 165 mm - Cut-out diameter 146 mm - Installation depth 79,5 mm �������������������������� [TABLE] [TR] [TD]Basket diameter (in mm)[/TD] [TD]165[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Installation diameter (in mm)[/TD] [TD]147[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Installation depth (in mm)[/TD] [TD]80[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Magnet diameter (in mm)[/TD] [TD]68[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Membrane material[/TD] [TD]paper[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Voice coil[/TD] [TD]copper[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Voice coil former[/TD] [TD]glass fiber[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]magnet[/TD] [TD]Neodymium ring[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]highest separation freq.[/TD] [TD]3.5 kHz[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]lowest crossover freq.[/TD] [TD]no[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Weight:[/TD] [TD]980 g[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Others[/TD] [TD]Woofer[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Nominal impedance (in ohms)[/TD] [TD]4th[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]DC resistance Rdc (in ohms)[/TD] [TD]3.25[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Voice coil inductance Le (in mH)[/TD] [TD]0.43[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Voice coil diameter (in mm)[/TD] [TD]32[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Membrane area Sd (in cm²)[/TD] [TD]139[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Resonance frequency fs (in Hz)[/TD] [TD]72[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]mechanical quality Qms[/TD] [TD]5.69[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]electrical quality Qes[/TD] [TD]5.69[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Total Q factor Qts[/TD] [TD]0.76[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Equivalent volume Vas (in l)[/TD] [TD]0.67[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Moving mass Mms (in g)[/TD] [TD]14.1[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Rms (in kg / s)[/TD] [TD]1.12[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Cms (in mm / N)[/TD] [TD]0.35[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]B * L (in Tm)[/TD] [TD]5.25[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Sound pressure 2V, 1m (in dB)[/TD] [TD]87[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] more information is available into their web site with some charts and things i dont understand. Last option GROUND zero i think this model is available for some time into the market, unfortunately i cant hear any of these and i cant travel to hear them abroad as well so we need to choose them based into their materials and specs wise. These components will be imported they arent available anywhere where i live in bg. Specs of ground zero [B]GZUK 165SQ[/B] are. [B]180 Watts max[/B] 6.5″ sound quality midwoofer with GZ aluminum cast basket and aluminum cone [LIST] [*]6.5″ sound quality midwoofer [*]50 mm / 2″ copper voice coil [*]Black anodized aluminum cone [*]Linearized neodymium motor [*]GZ design aluminum cast basket [*]Universal 4 ohms version [*]Incl. GZ designprotection grill [*]Gold plated screw terminal [*]1 pair / package [/LIST] [TABLE] [TR] [TH]Model[/TH] [TD]Sound quality midwoofer[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TH]Diameter[/TH] [TD]165 mm / 6.50"[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TH]Power Handling (RMS/max.)[/TH] [TD]120 / 180 Watts[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TH]Impedance[/TH] [TD]4 Ohms[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TH]Efficiency[/TH] [TD]87 dB[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TH]Frequency Response[/TH] [TD][URL='https://www.ground-zero-audio.com/en/frequenzgang/40-hz-3500-hz/']40 Hz – 3500 Hz[/URL][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TH]Voice Coil[/TH] [TD]50 mm / 2" copper[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TH]Membran Layout[/TH] [TD][URL='https://www.ground-zero-audio.com/en/membran-ausfuehrung/anodized-aluminum/']anodized aluminum[/URL][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TH]Magnet material[/TH] [TD]Neodymium[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TH]Mounting Ø[/TH] [TD][URL='https://www.ground-zero-audio.com/en/einbau-o/144-mm-5-67/']144 mm / 5.67"[/URL][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TH]Mounting Depth[/TH] [TD][URL='https://www.ground-zero-audio.com/en/einbautiefe/63-mm-2-48/']63 mm / 2.48"[/URL][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TH]Resonance Frequency (Fs)[/TH] [TD][URL='https://www.ground-zero-audio.com/en/resonanzfrequenz-fs/54-6-hz/']54.6 Hz[/URL][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Ground zero are the cheapest they cost 2 times less compared to audison, and also their resale value is close to zero, keep that in mind. if you need more information let me know thanks. 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