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<blockquote data-quote="n2audio" data-source="post: 163557" data-attributes="member: 540940">If it were me - Either the Alpine 9811 or the Clarion.&nbsp; I&#039;d eliminate Pan simply b/c Alpine and Clarion both have better track records (from what I&#039;ve seen).I don&#039;t like the Al 9813 or 9815 b/c all I see is a few more watts on the speaker leads and some more bells and whistles that I&#039;d never use anyway - and it would cost me significantly more.&nbsp; The 9811 has all the essentials and plenty beyond that.And about pre-out voltages...people were building perfectly noise-free systems years ago when 1/2V pre outs were the best you could find.&nbsp; As always, it&#039;s a lot more important to take the time and get the installation right than it is to spend thousands on equipment with great specs.Pre-amp voltage -- all amps that I know of will accept as much signal voltage as you can feed them.&nbsp; Even though the dial may only read 4V, you won&#039;t cause any problem if you&#039;re running 6 or even 8.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="n2audio, post: 163557, member: 540940"] If it were me - Either the Alpine 9811 or the Clarion. I'd eliminate Pan simply b/c Alpine and Clarion both have better track records (from what I've seen). I don't like the Al 9813 or 9815 b/c all I see is a few more watts on the speaker leads and some more bells and whistles that I'd never use anyway - and it would cost me significantly more. The 9811 has all the essentials and plenty beyond that. And about pre-out voltages...people were building perfectly noise-free systems years ago when 1/2V pre outs were the best you could find. As always, it's a lot more important to take the time and get the installation right than it is to spend thousands on equipment with great specs. Pre-amp voltage -- all amps that I know of will accept as much signal voltage as you can feed them. Even though the dial may only read 4V, you won't cause any problem if you're running 6 or even 8. [/QUOTE]

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