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<blockquote data-quote="sundownz" data-source="post: 2104166" data-attributes="member: 549523"><p>The first iteration of Edead was an Asphalt product as mentiioned already. This stuff had TONS of known issues falling off.</p><p></p><p>If you have a product with a 2 denotation (like squared), which is the new stuff, it is a butyl product and works fine. I have applied 30 ft^2 to a friends car and about 10 ft^2 to my car so far without issue. I am using the newest Edead V1Se2 stuff for refernece. Only possible issue is that the backing aluminum is VERY thin. This makes it easy to rip in corners and whatnot, but does help a bit in ease of application.</p><p></p><p>I have also ordered some Second Skin Damplifier to compare to. I expect the Damplifier to be sturdier and overall better, if not only for the fact that it is more expensive and a comparable direct product. I have a running post on the SS forum where I will post my comparison thoughts when my Damplifier gets here and I have some time to work with it. I hear lots of good things and I think that Ant, the owner, seems like a stand-up guy based on his postings.</p><p></p><p>I have also used a little of the new ED v.4 Teklite and find it to be a good material so far, time will tell on the adhesive qualities though. For that matter I decided to try some of their v.3 liquid deadener as well... haven't gotten it yet but it's on the way. My goal is to purchase the equivalent SS products as well so I can have first hand experience to compare the two companies offerings.</p><p></p><p>Prior to the Edead I had always used Peel &amp; Seal with no issues due to my application method; I use small pieces of 6" or less, and tape every seam and edge of each layer with aluminum tape (ask Nick at SI, I do mean EVERY edge), and I also used a LITTLE bit of heat for application (but not too much). The small pieces keep weight from pulling it off, and the tape solves ANY possible way for the mat to pull off and also solved smell issues in my experience -- I have even used P&amp;S upside down with this method. 5 years worth of hot summers haven't made the P&amp;S fall off my old car.</p><p></p><p>Not to say that P&amp;S is an ideal material, it's not and it's a hassle, but that method works if you have no options but P&amp;S, the old E-Dead, or other Asphalt mats. The thing that worries me about these products is the toxic fumes, that is what swayed me to go ahead and purchase butyl products to finish my new vehicle installation after starting the trunk and one door with P&amp;S.</p><p></p><p>I am certainly not an ED fanboy, but I am pleased with their new Edead V1Se2 mat. I will also be evaluating their other deadeners, so far so good with the v.4 Teklite.</p><p></p><p>Wow... that was long. Hope it was helpful.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sundownz, post: 2104166, member: 549523"] The first iteration of Edead was an Asphalt product as mentiioned already. This stuff had TONS of known issues falling off. If you have a product with a 2 denotation (like squared), which is the new stuff, it is a butyl product and works fine. I have applied 30 ft^2 to a friends car and about 10 ft^2 to my car so far without issue. I am using the newest Edead V1Se2 stuff for refernece. Only possible issue is that the backing aluminum is VERY thin. This makes it easy to rip in corners and whatnot, but does help a bit in ease of application. I have also ordered some Second Skin Damplifier to compare to. I expect the Damplifier to be sturdier and overall better, if not only for the fact that it is more expensive and a comparable direct product. I have a running post on the SS forum where I will post my comparison thoughts when my Damplifier gets here and I have some time to work with it. I hear lots of good things and I think that Ant, the owner, seems like a stand-up guy based on his postings. I have also used a little of the new ED v.4 Teklite and find it to be a good material so far, time will tell on the adhesive qualities though. For that matter I decided to try some of their v.3 liquid deadener as well... haven't gotten it yet but it's on the way. My goal is to purchase the equivalent SS products as well so I can have first hand experience to compare the two companies offerings. Prior to the Edead I had always used Peel & Seal with no issues due to my application method; I use small pieces of 6" or less, and tape every seam and edge of each layer with aluminum tape (ask Nick at SI, I do mean EVERY edge), and I also used a LITTLE bit of heat for application (but not too much). The small pieces keep weight from pulling it off, and the tape solves ANY possible way for the mat to pull off and also solved smell issues in my experience -- I have even used P&S upside down with this method. 5 years worth of hot summers haven't made the P&S fall off my old car. Not to say that P&S is an ideal material, it's not and it's a hassle, but that method works if you have no options but P&S, the old E-Dead, or other Asphalt mats. The thing that worries me about these products is the toxic fumes, that is what swayed me to go ahead and purchase butyl products to finish my new vehicle installation after starting the trunk and one door with P&S. I am certainly not an ED fanboy, but I am pleased with their new Edead V1Se2 mat. I will also be evaluating their other deadeners, so far so good with the v.4 Teklite. Wow... that was long. Hope it was helpful. [/QUOTE]
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