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Message: <blockquote data-quote="gimpster80" data-source="post: 1608933" data-attributes="member: 566816"><p>well eclipse is a litte expensice just to hit high numbers, face these days you don't have to spend a lot to hit really hard, or clear in my opinion. get your hands on some optidrives, you can't hit any harder with anything else in the price range. anyone else who posts different is full of it, I have tried pretty much every brand.</p></blockquote><p></p>

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