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<blockquote data-quote="JLCivic" data-source="post: 403681" data-attributes="member: 547424">Actually Eclipse&#039;s lower end models(which I would take over many other &quot;higher end&quot; decks&quot;) have pre out voltage listed at 100 ohms(as compared to some companies who do not even list that spec).As for what makes 1 beck better(or sound better) than another deck:I am not an engineer by any means, but imo, the following can come into play:The quality of the pre outs(not just how high the voltage is rated)the overall design of the deck(some decks can have a better design than others, I suppose)The quality of the parts in the head unit.I prefer Eclipse to every other brand I have owned, and I have owned most major brands.I would NEVER look at a s/n ratio spec and insist that the higher number must mean that a deck sounds better(or is &quot;cleaner&quot;) than another.&nbsp; I have seen many use that spec as some kind of golden rule of determining what decks sound better, and I find that quite sad.&nbsp; We simply cannot hear a difference between a s/n ratio of, say, 96 db, and a 110 db s/n ratio.Also, if you had a deck with a 300 db s/n ratio, and you ran it into an amp that has a 90 db s/n ratio, your new system s/n ratio is 90 db.&nbsp; I think some don&#039;t think about that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="JLCivic, post: 403681, member: 547424"] Actually Eclipse's lower end models(which I would take over many other "higher end" decks") have pre out voltage listed at 100 ohms(as compared to some companies who do not even list that spec). As for what makes 1 beck better(or sound better) than another deck: I am not an engineer by any means, but imo, the following can come into play: The quality of the pre outs(not just how high the voltage is rated) the overall design of the deck(some decks can have a better design than others, I suppose) The quality of the parts in the head unit. I prefer Eclipse to every other brand I have owned, and I have owned most major brands. I would NEVER look at a s/n ratio spec and insist that the higher number must mean that a deck sounds better(or is "cleaner") than another. I have seen many use that spec as some kind of golden rule of determining what decks sound better, and I find that quite sad. We simply cannot hear a difference between a s/n ratio of, say, 96 db, and a 110 db s/n ratio. Also, if you had a deck with a 300 db s/n ratio, and you ran it into an amp that has a 90 db s/n ratio, your new system s/n ratio is 90 db. I think some don't think about that. [/QUOTE]

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