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<blockquote data-quote="Electrodynamic" data-source="post: 4034072" data-attributes="member: 548723">Let&#039;s take a look at a few things:Pioneer&#039;s shallow subwoofer specs out like this:# 12&quot; 4-ohm shallow subwoofer# carbon and glass fiber reinforced IMPP cone with woven-fiber surround# Air Suspension Control System eliminates traditional spider structure# cast aluminum basket# strontium magnet# power range: 50-350 watts RMS (1400 watts peak power)# frequency response: 18-1000 Hz# sensitivity: 88 dB# mounting depth: 3-5/16&quot;# sealed box volume: 0.50-1.00 cu. ft.# $199 from an authorized dealerAnd the Boston Acoustics G212 specs out like this:# 12&quot; 4-ohm subwoofer# copolymer woofer cone with foam surround# RadialVent cooling for increased power handling# power range: 75-300 watts RMS# frequency response: 20-350 Hz# sensitivity: 89.6 dB# mounting depth: 7-1/16&quot;# sealed box volume: 1.00 cu. ft.# $199 from an authorized dealerNow, I chose two VERY popular woofers that are the exact same price.&nbsp; In this scenario, the flat sub out-performs the deeper subwoofer in &quot;frequency response&quot; (I keep putting that in quotes because mfg&#039;s put frequency responses out there for gullible people who think it&#039;s good...just like peak power ratings on subs and amplifiers), destroys it in mounting depth, operates in a smaller enclosure (half the size of the deeper subwoofer), handles more power, and has more descriptives on the cone //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif.In my previous post I was saying how I could see your initial thoughts / mindset on shallow-vs-deep subwoofers, but I think you&#039;re barking up the wrong tree now.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Electrodynamic, post: 4034072, member: 548723"] Let's take a look at a few things: Pioneer's shallow subwoofer specs out like this: # 12" 4-ohm shallow subwoofer # carbon and glass fiber reinforced IMPP cone with woven-fiber surround # Air Suspension Control System eliminates traditional spider structure # cast aluminum basket # strontium magnet # power range: 50-350 watts RMS (1400 watts peak power) # frequency response: 18-1000 Hz # sensitivity: 88 dB # mounting depth: 3-5/16" # sealed box volume: 0.50-1.00 cu. ft. # $199 from an authorized dealer And the Boston Acoustics G212 specs out like this: # 12" 4-ohm subwoofer # copolymer woofer cone with foam surround # RadialVent cooling for increased power handling # power range: 75-300 watts RMS # frequency response: 20-350 Hz # sensitivity: 89.6 dB # mounting depth: 7-1/16" # sealed box volume: 1.00 cu. ft. # $199 from an authorized dealer Now, I chose two VERY popular woofers that are the exact same price. In this scenario, the flat sub out-performs the deeper subwoofer in "frequency response" (I keep putting that in quotes because mfg's put frequency responses out there for gullible people who think it's good...just like peak power ratings on subs and amplifiers), destroys it in mounting depth, operates in a smaller enclosure (half the size of the deeper subwoofer), handles more power, and has more descriptives on the cone [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif[/IMG]. In my previous post I was saying how I could see your initial thoughts / mindset on shallow-vs-deep subwoofers, but I think you're barking up the wrong tree now. [/QUOTE]

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