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<blockquote data-quote="CBFryman2" data-source="post: 2473582" data-attributes="member: 565445">Agian the difference between hearing it and experencing it. I&#039;ve yet to hear a single 10&quot; set up that could actually &#039;knock&#039; me in the chest that wasnt tuned too high for my likings...and deffanitely no single 10&quot; sealed. My GF&#039;s car is about perfect as well. Two Assasin 10&#039;s in a Wicked One with 400w.The 12&quot; in the ported enclosure tuned low was to compensate for the lost low end, not to gain output. There are reggae songs I listen to that dip into the 20&#039;s. A 10&quot; or even most 12&quot;s sealed just arent going to have the output that low for me to actually experence the rumble of the music.And I&#039;m sorry but once vocals, no matter how low the distortion is, get into the 130dB + range your ears are going to hurt. Bass on the other hand doesnt cause discomfert untill the 140dB + range and doesnt actually cause pain untill 150dB+. 110dB Vocals are pretty **** loud. Go back in that demo room and cut the subwoofer and only listen to the vocal range at the same level you where listening to before. Pull out the handy meter and register what the VOCALS where playing at. I have a feeling you would be surprised.Going along with the distortion thing...unless you are listening to an orchestra there will be distortion in the music 9 times out of 10. Musictians LOVE to add distortions to their music. Even or Odd order a guitar with a wahwah pedal and an amp pushed into clipping is going to being to physically hurt at 120-130dB if not lower. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif</blockquote>

[QUOTE="CBFryman2, post: 2473582, member: 565445"] Agian the difference between hearing it and experencing it. I've yet to hear a single 10" set up that could actually 'knock' me in the chest that wasnt tuned too high for my likings...and deffanitely no single 10" sealed. My GF's car is about perfect as well. Two Assasin 10's in a Wicked One with 400w. The 12" in the ported enclosure tuned [B]low[/B] was to compensate for the lost low end, not to gain output. There are reggae songs I listen to that dip into the 20's. A 10" or even most 12"s sealed just arent going to have the output that low for me to actually experence the rumble of the music. And I'm sorry but once vocals, no matter how low the distortion is, get into the 130dB + range your ears are going to hurt. Bass on the other hand doesnt cause discomfert untill the 140dB + range and doesnt actually cause pain untill 150dB+. 110dB Vocals are pretty **** loud. Go back in that demo room and cut the subwoofer and only listen to the vocal range at the same level you where listening to before. Pull out the handy meter and register what the VOCALS where playing at. I have a feeling you would be surprised. Going along with the distortion thing...unless you are listening to an orchestra there will be distortion in the music 9 times out of 10. Musictians LOVE to add distortions to their music. Even or Odd order a guitar with a wahwah pedal and an amp pushed into clipping is going to being to physically hurt at 120-130dB if not lower. [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif[/IMG] [/QUOTE]

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