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<blockquote data-quote="JLCivic" data-source="post: 922018" data-attributes="member: 547424"><p>Was the 9830 purchased from an authorized dealer?&nbsp; Alpine decks are wh0red out all over the internet so of course they can be had cheaper than retail.&nbsp; Eclipse regulates that much more so you don&#039;t see every online(unauthorized) dealer in the world carrying eclipse decks.&nbsp; It also can come down to WHAT features you view as important.&nbsp; Does Alpine have a 5V/55 ohm deck(we know the answer to that), yet Eclipse has them starting at $180.&nbsp; It comes down to what features you want, but if you check out authorized pricing on both brands, I think you will see Eclipse comes out looking pretty good.&nbsp; Eclipse pricing has dropped quite a bit in the last 2-3 years.&nbsp; I agree though, sq or bells and whistles.&nbsp; To me, bells and whistles are no good if the deck doesn&#039;t sound as good as it should in the first place.&nbsp; The local shop has loved selling eclipse decks because as they say, &quot;you drop it in the dash and listen to it.&quot;&nbsp; They don&#039;t have to spend any time tweaking it.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="JLCivic, post: 922018, member: 547424"] Was the 9830 purchased from an authorized dealer? Alpine decks are wh0red out all over the internet so of course they can be had cheaper than retail. Eclipse regulates that much more so you don't see every online(unauthorized) dealer in the world carrying eclipse decks. It also can come down to WHAT features you view as important. Does Alpine have a 5V/55 ohm deck(we know the answer to that), yet Eclipse has them starting at $180. It comes down to what features you want, but if you check out authorized pricing on both brands, I think you will see Eclipse comes out looking pretty good. Eclipse pricing has dropped quite a bit in the last 2-3 years. I agree though, sq or bells and whistles. To me, bells and whistles are no good if the deck doesn't sound as good as it should in the first place. The local shop has loved selling eclipse decks because as they say, "you drop it in the dash and listen to it." They don't have to spend any time tweaking it. [/QUOTE]

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