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<blockquote data-quote="headless" data-source="post: 1967746" data-attributes="member: 566363"><p>I had a DMP1 and it SUCKED ***. The ****ing piece of shit had NO FAST FORWARD OR REWIND!!! Now, maybe some people wouldn't care about that, but i have tons of music that is a single, long *** track, several hours long -- entire concerts as a single track. I *require* fast forward/rewind. The DMP1 now has a community supporting it with a hacked firmware that adds some good features such as fast forward and rewind...but it takes almost 3 minutes <em>every time you turn on the dmp1</em> to "index the files" before you can play ANYTHING...and mine broke after only a couple months of use. And it had no volume control of it's own. And no remote. And no playlist control.</p><p></p><p>The kenwood keg is one i'm not personally familiar with, but from what i've seen it looks to be better than the dmp1 but not nearly as flexible as the empeg.</p><p></p><p>There are several reasons the dmp1 is so much cheaper:</p><p></p><p>(a) The DMP1 has a shitty screen with very little flexibility; the empeg screen is a full featured screen that can display anything from text to scroll bars to visualizations based on the music. For an example - the empeg can show current track info, with the title and a bar showing your progress through the track and some other misc info...or it can show visualizations, or it can show current track + next 3 tracks, etc. The dmp1 can show...current track and next three tracks. period.</p><p></p><p>(b) the dmp1 has no volume control; the empeg does.</p><p></p><p>© the dmp1 has a faceplate with a hideaway box that you have to run a cable to the faceplate from to control; the empeg goes IN DASH, hardrrives and all.</p><p></p><p>(d) the dmp1 can use a single hardrive. The empeg can handle two hardrives at once, seamlessly as if it's one drive.</p><p></p><p>(e) the dmp1 won't work in 'high temperatures', which i learned are 'any ****ing thing over 90f' which cars in florida OFTEN reach</p><p></p><p>(f) the dmp1 has no equalizer ability and 1 set of preouts. The empeg has 2 pairs of preouts, an aux in, a 20 band fully adjustable parametric EQ, and even support for a radio tuner.</p><p></p><p>(g) the dmp1 will play MP3's and only MP3's. It has serious problems with variable bit rate mp3's. It refused to play alot of my mp3s because it thought they were encoded badly or some shit. The empeg not only plays ANY **** mp3 you play at it, but it also plays ogg and flac lossless compression formats.</p><p></p><p>(h) the dmp1 has 2 major components...a bigass box that does nothing that houses the hardrive, and then a faceplate wannabe dealio that goes wherever you feel like it. The empeg is 1 unit. When you yank it out of your dash, you have your mp3 player, your hardrives, etc. all in one.</p><p></p><p>(g) Uploading via wireless is slow as balls. uploading via usb is slow as balls. The empeg has an ethernet port for transferring files, though you can, if you feel nostalgic, upload using the usb port, or if you feel downright ancient, using the serial port //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif</p><p></p><p>(i) navigating to choose a new song to play on the empeg is totally threaded - you can enqueue and replace tracks in your 'live playlist' constantly without ever having music stop. You have to STOP PLAYING MUSIC to navigate through the DMP1's tracks and choose your next song. This only happens on the hacked firmware that supports fast forward/rewind, though...so you can navigate without stopping playing on the original firmware, but then you get no fast forward/rewind. LOL.</p><p></p><p>My DMP1, when i got it, was brand new in box (but discontinued) - it died within 3 months of purchase. My empeg is now over 7 years old and has been in daily use in my car for almost a year...no problems. A slightly different version of the same software that runs the Rio Karma powers the RioCar - it's up to date, open source, constantly being updated.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="headless, post: 1967746, member: 566363"] I had a DMP1 and it SUCKED ***. The ****ing piece of shit had NO FAST FORWARD OR REWIND!!! Now, maybe some people wouldn't care about that, but i have tons of music that is a single, long *** track, several hours long -- entire concerts as a single track. I *require* fast forward/rewind. The DMP1 now has a community supporting it with a hacked firmware that adds some good features such as fast forward and rewind...but it takes almost 3 minutes [I]every time you turn on the dmp1[/I] to "index the files" before you can play ANYTHING...and mine broke after only a couple months of use. And it had no volume control of it's own. And no remote. And no playlist control. The kenwood keg is one i'm not personally familiar with, but from what i've seen it looks to be better than the dmp1 but not nearly as flexible as the empeg. There are several reasons the dmp1 is so much cheaper: (a) The DMP1 has a shitty screen with very little flexibility; the empeg screen is a full featured screen that can display anything from text to scroll bars to visualizations based on the music. For an example - the empeg can show current track info, with the title and a bar showing your progress through the track and some other misc info...or it can show visualizations, or it can show current track + next 3 tracks, etc. The dmp1 can show...current track and next three tracks. period. (b) the dmp1 has no volume control; the empeg does. © the dmp1 has a faceplate with a hideaway box that you have to run a cable to the faceplate from to control; the empeg goes IN DASH, hardrrives and all. (d) the dmp1 can use a single hardrive. The empeg can handle two hardrives at once, seamlessly as if it's one drive. (e) the dmp1 won't work in 'high temperatures', which i learned are 'any ****ing thing over 90f' which cars in florida OFTEN reach (f) the dmp1 has no equalizer ability and 1 set of preouts. The empeg has 2 pairs of preouts, an aux in, a 20 band fully adjustable parametric EQ, and even support for a radio tuner. (g) the dmp1 will play MP3's and only MP3's. It has serious problems with variable bit rate mp3's. It refused to play alot of my mp3s because it thought they were encoded badly or some shit. The empeg not only plays ANY **** mp3 you play at it, but it also plays ogg and flac lossless compression formats. (h) the dmp1 has 2 major components...a bigass box that does nothing that houses the hardrive, and then a faceplate wannabe dealio that goes wherever you feel like it. The empeg is 1 unit. When you yank it out of your dash, you have your mp3 player, your hardrives, etc. all in one. (g) Uploading via wireless is slow as balls. uploading via usb is slow as balls. The empeg has an ethernet port for transferring files, though you can, if you feel nostalgic, upload using the usb port, or if you feel downright ancient, using the serial port [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif[/IMG] (i) navigating to choose a new song to play on the empeg is totally threaded - you can enqueue and replace tracks in your 'live playlist' constantly without ever having music stop. You have to STOP PLAYING MUSIC to navigate through the DMP1's tracks and choose your next song. This only happens on the hacked firmware that supports fast forward/rewind, though...so you can navigate without stopping playing on the original firmware, but then you get no fast forward/rewind. LOL. My DMP1, when i got it, was brand new in box (but discontinued) - it died within 3 months of purchase. My empeg is now over 7 years old and has been in daily use in my car for almost a year...no problems. A slightly different version of the same software that runs the Rio Karma powers the RioCar - it's up to date, open source, constantly being updated. [/QUOTE]
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