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<blockquote data-quote="BallinOrBallOut" data-source="post: 4444990" data-attributes="member: 591308">I agree with that...ignorance IS bliss.&nbsp; Unfortunately for me I&#039;m not ignorant as I DO know better.&nbsp; I used to have a set of 12&quot; Kicker Solos in a sealed box hooked to a Clarion amp with a Kenwood X911 receiver.&nbsp; I dumped over $800 for the HU alone...this is when the KDC X911 first came out, years ago.&nbsp; Someone stole the entire setup.&nbsp; Then I got a set of MTX Thunders and an Orion amp.&nbsp; Same thing...got stolen.&nbsp; My whole thing is this.&nbsp; Wouldn&#039;t technology, advancing every day like it does, produce lower-end setups (meaning lower cost, not quality) every bit as comparable to high end stuff produced 5 or 10 years ago?&nbsp; I mean, isn&#039;t this how it works?&nbsp; So what makes the Ultra Linear &quot;crap&quot; because I got it for $80, which is by no means what the actual retail price was, or is it crap because we&#039;re talking dynamics.&nbsp; Distortion?&nbsp; DB level?&nbsp; Voltage?&nbsp; Please enlighten me for this is something everyone immediately says but ultimately has no REAL answer to.&nbsp; What makes it a garbage amp?&nbsp; Just curious.&nbsp; I can easily buy a Kenwood, Sony, or Rockford from my lil buddy at Best Buy and get a discount.&nbsp; But if I can pay 80 bucks is it not worth it?&nbsp; It sure as hell beats spending $349 on that Clarion I was looking at over at Smart Shoppers, which by the way is the retail price.&nbsp; The retail price on that Linear is around $275.&nbsp; So is it good then, since we&#039;re going on price?I&#039;m just asking.&nbsp; What makes it a bad amp?&nbsp; Educated responses this time, please.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BallinOrBallOut, post: 4444990, member: 591308"] I agree with that...ignorance IS bliss. Unfortunately for me I'm not ignorant as I DO know better. I used to have a set of 12" Kicker Solos in a sealed box hooked to a Clarion amp with a Kenwood X911 receiver. I dumped over $800 for the HU alone...this is when the KDC X911 first came out, years ago. Someone stole the entire setup. Then I got a set of MTX Thunders and an Orion amp. Same thing...got stolen. My whole thing is this. Wouldn't technology, advancing every day like it does, produce lower-end setups (meaning lower cost, not quality) every bit as comparable to high end stuff produced 5 or 10 years ago? I mean, isn't this how it works? So what makes the Ultra Linear "crap" because I got it for $80, which is by no means what the actual retail price was, or is it crap because we're talking dynamics. Distortion? DB level? Voltage? Please enlighten me for this is something everyone immediately says but ultimately has no REAL answer to. What makes it a garbage amp? Just curious. I can easily buy a Kenwood, Sony, or Rockford from my lil buddy at Best Buy and get a discount. But if I can pay 80 bucks is it not worth it? It sure as hell beats spending $349 on that Clarion I was looking at over at Smart Shoppers, which by the way is the retail price. The retail price on that Linear is around $275. So is it good then, since we're going on price? I'm just asking. What makes it a bad amp? Educated responses this time, please. [/QUOTE]

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