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Message: <blockquote data-quote="forbidden" data-source="post: 1776420" data-attributes="member: 552189"><p>I think that you are hearing little white lies about the new head units. 99% of companies upgrade cosmetics or feature content from year to year. Eclipse has not changed their laser transport, pickup, preamp, amp, tuner, case for over 5 years now for most of the items I just listed. It sucks that you had a bad 8445, but don't shrug the balance of the line off based on one bad apple that always seemed to come your way. To me this sounds more like a dealer issue rather than a Eclipse issue. For me as a dealer, 3 times with a problem = replacement for the customer, no questions asked. I have had about 5 bad 8445 units in the last year, all different problems for all different people. So far the new models are every bit as good as the old, no complaints from me here.</p></blockquote><p></p>

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