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<blockquote data-quote="thylantyr" data-source="post: 1556359" data-attributes="member: 560358"><p><strong>Ultimate boner saw </strong></p><p></p><p>I ain't buying this stuff, but it's neat.</p><p></p><p>Grizzly 12" sliding table saw</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.grizzly.com/products/G0460" target="_blank">http://www.grizzly.com/products/G0460</a></p><p></p><p>Sawtrax dual arm saw</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.sawtrax.com/page44.html" target="_blank">http://www.sawtrax.com/page44.html</a></p><p></p><p>Sawtrax mitering beam saw</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.sawtrax.com/Page25.html" target="_blank">http://www.sawtrax.com/Page25.html</a></p><p></p><p>Watch the sawtrax videos. Expensive stuff but big boner stuff.</p><p></p><p>The design is so simple, they took a Matika 16" circular saw and made</p><p></p><p>a linear guide/table for it. They want $4k for the dual arm saw, the</p><p></p><p>Matika circular is ~$600 which can be bought seperately.</p><p></p><p>This ignited an explosion in my head to 're-invent' the Radial Arm saw</p><p></p><p>which is slowly dying over time as the SCMS is taking over.</p><p></p><p>Here is the problem as I see it. There are situations for using a table saw,</p><p></p><p>radial arm saw or sliding compound miter saw {SCMS}.</p><p></p><p>Table saw disavantage: You have to push the material through the blade,</p><p></p><p>this is difficult to do if the material is heavy. Ever push 1" thick 4x8 MDF ?</p><p></p><p>not sweet. Solution? sliding table saw. Who can afford $3500 for one, a saw that weights 1000 pounds. Panel saw? that would work well perhaps. Takes up alot of garage real estate.</p><p></p><p>Radial Arm saw disavantage: short crosscutting stroke. Even the big beasts</p><p></p><p>that cost $5k ore more can't even crosscut a 4x8 sheet of wood, they fall short</p><p></p><p>by a wide margin.</p><p></p><p>SCMS disavantage: Short stroke also.</p><p></p><p>What the woodworking guy needs is a new long stroking, compact,</p><p></p><p>radial arm saw with 16" blade. One idea is to make a 3 stage</p><p></p><p>linear guide, a telescoping precision guide where each section stokes</p><p></p><p>16" .. when the saw is not in use, it telescoped back into it's compact</p><p></p><p>shape, but can extend out to crosscut a sheet of 4x8 plywood, 48".</p><p></p><p>The table will have an extender on a ball bearing slide with casters and you</p><p></p><p>just pull out the extender for said wood size.</p><p></p><p>If we can design such a beast with universal circular saw adapter plate,</p><p></p><p>you have a winner! Imagine, get any frikin circular saw and install it,</p><p></p><p>viola' instant 48" stroking radial arm saw that collapses into a small 2 foot square</p><p></p><p>workspace when not in use.</p><p></p><p>The trick is the linear slide, it can't have any deflection across a 48" span.</p><p></p><p>That is the heart of the design and the most difficult. I spent 2 days brainstorming</p><p></p><p>three ideas, but I just don't have time for 100% dedication to this. Maybe a forum</p><p></p><p>pet project and see what we can do in 12-24 months? /hehehe</p><p></p><p>/wonders if the guide idea is patentable or if there is one already?</p><p></p><p>/wonders if a product exists on the market now? I can't find one .. but is there one?</p><p></p><p>research = power</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="thylantyr, post: 1556359, member: 560358"] [B]Ultimate boner saw [/B] I ain't buying this stuff, but it's neat. Grizzly 12" sliding table saw [URL="http://www.grizzly.com/products/G0460"]http://www.grizzly.com/products/G0460[/URL] Sawtrax dual arm saw [URL="http://www.sawtrax.com/page44.html"]http://www.sawtrax.com/page44.html[/URL] Sawtrax mitering beam saw [URL="http://www.sawtrax.com/Page25.html"]http://www.sawtrax.com/Page25.html[/URL] Watch the sawtrax videos. Expensive stuff but big boner stuff. The design is so simple, they took a Matika 16" circular saw and made a linear guide/table for it. They want $4k for the dual arm saw, the Matika circular is ~$600 which can be bought seperately. This ignited an explosion in my head to 're-invent' the Radial Arm saw which is slowly dying over time as the SCMS is taking over. Here is the problem as I see it. There are situations for using a table saw, radial arm saw or sliding compound miter saw {SCMS}. Table saw disavantage: You have to push the material through the blade, this is difficult to do if the material is heavy. Ever push 1" thick 4x8 MDF ? not sweet. Solution? sliding table saw. Who can afford $3500 for one, a saw that weights 1000 pounds. Panel saw? that would work well perhaps. Takes up alot of garage real estate. Radial Arm saw disavantage: short crosscutting stroke. Even the big beasts that cost $5k ore more can't even crosscut a 4x8 sheet of wood, they fall short by a wide margin. SCMS disavantage: Short stroke also. What the woodworking guy needs is a new long stroking, compact, radial arm saw with 16" blade. One idea is to make a 3 stage linear guide, a telescoping precision guide where each section stokes 16" .. when the saw is not in use, it telescoped back into it's compact shape, but can extend out to crosscut a sheet of 4x8 plywood, 48". The table will have an extender on a ball bearing slide with casters and you just pull out the extender for said wood size. If we can design such a beast with universal circular saw adapter plate, you have a winner! Imagine, get any frikin circular saw and install it, viola' instant 48" stroking radial arm saw that collapses into a small 2 foot square workspace when not in use. The trick is the linear slide, it can't have any deflection across a 48" span. That is the heart of the design and the most difficult. I spent 2 days brainstorming three ideas, but I just don't have time for 100% dedication to this. Maybe a forum pet project and see what we can do in 12-24 months? /hehehe /wonders if the guide idea is patentable or if there is one already? /wonders if a product exists on the market now? I can't find one .. but is there one? research = power [/QUOTE]
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