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<blockquote data-quote="MisterDeadeye" data-source="post: 7402636" data-attributes="member: 611015">You haven&#039;t done any &quot;teaching&quot;. You&#039;ve jumped in the topic screaming, &quot;Drugs are bad, mmkay!&quot; and called us all stupid. I&#039;ve done a lot of research on different drugs, and their effects on brain chemistry(as well as their effects on various systems in the body, but those effects are almost all short-term, usually when you&#039;re on the drug itself), and I&#039;ve done a few different drugs. I&#039;ve seen what different drugs do to people&#039;s lives, and what harmful effects come from long term drug use for different drugs.I&#039;ve come to the conclusion that most of the drugs condemned by the nation aren&#039;t condemned by the world. In fact, there are some places where certain drug use is seen as holy, spiritual. Speeding up someone&#039;s digestive system doesn&#039;t necessarily mean harm. Slowing down or speeding up someone&#039;s heart rate doesn&#039;t necessarily mean harm. Feeling happy while you&#039;re on the drug then immediately feeling sad afterward doesn&#039;t necessarily mean harm. You have to understand serotonin, dopamine, etc., and their receptors, and which drugs bind to which receptors. You have to understand the different drugs&#039; half lives, and understand which part of the body they are stored.It&#039;s funny that you say once people go into the medical field, they start to understand what you&#039;re speaking of(you haven&#039;t actually spoke of anything, actually. Paraphrasing, but nonetheless, &quot;My wife and I know things. I&#039;ve seen things. You&#039;re stupid.&quot;). I&#039;ve read a ton of different studies by different people with Ph.D&#039;s and M.D&#039;s in different things ranging from Biology to Psychology; Chemistry to Neurosciences; Biochemistry to Mollecular Physiology. I&#039;ve seen different tables and formulas explaining different effects of different drugs on the brain and on a person&#039;s mind. These are all real professionals, in real fields, with real studies, with real volunteers and participants. Tell us about these tests you&#039;ve seen. Show us how every drug that you don&#039;t need is harmful. If you really think you understand what&#039;s going on, explain. If not, keep telling us that we&#039;re wrong while you&#039;re right while not proving anything.Regarding your earlier posts, just stating that &quot;any drug or chemical that you don&#039;t NEED is harmful to your body&quot; is completely ignorant and ironic, it&#039;s almost incomprehensible. Are you aware of every single hormone and receptor in the brain? Are you aware of every single chemical&#039;s purpose in the brain? Do you understand the purpose of the pineal gland? If you do, I&#039;d be quite surprised as even experts in medicine and other sciences don&#039;t know what the purpose is. They don&#039;t know the reason for dreams, or their effects on our minds. That&#039;s one of the reasons you&#039;re already wrong.Another reason you&#039;re wrong is that you want to start arguing semantics. There is a dictionary definition of drug. Drugs are substances that react physiologically. Do you know how many drugs there are? Do you how many drugs we classify as &quot;safe&quot;? The fact(not some clouded misconception, by the way) remains that while drugs effect the body, they aren&#039;t all necessarily safe or dangerous. Certain chemicals have negative effects on the body. Chemicals containing arsenic are obviously an example of the negative effects on the body. Caffeine is a stimulant much like amphetamines, but it&#039;s legal. It&#039;s considered safe by most. Acetaminophen is considered safe by most. Unfortunately, even following recommended doses of Tylenol can ruin your liver. That doesn&#039;t seem very safe, now does it?The third, most definitely not last, but the last I&#039;m willing to discuss, reason you&#039;re wrong is that you don&#039;t even know what chemical or drug I&#039;m talking about. You don&#039;t know all of the research that&#039;s been done on the specific chemical/drug I&#039;m talking about. You have no idea on dosage or anything more complex than &quot;it&#039;s a drug.&quot;If you want to go into a deeper discussion of brain chemistry and hormones and different drugs&#039; effects on different hormone receptors, come at me bro. I&#039;ve actually done research. Reading text books and listening to professors isn&#039;t research.I haven&#039;t done cocaine, or heroin, or ecstasy. I&#039;ve done MDMA, though. I&#039;ve done LSD. I&#039;ve smoked plenty of weed. I&#039;ve also done different research chemicals. I&#039;ve taken magic mushrooms, and I&#039;ve used alcohol(although I don&#039;t necessarily care for it). I&#039;ve taken hydrocodone with acetaminophen, codeine, and different benzodiazepines. I&#039;ve taken different doses of each, and used them for different lengths of time. I&#039;m not saying it&#039;s necessarily research, but I have used a blood pressure monitor while experiencing some of them. I&#039;m not stupid, I have no clouded judgment, and I don&#039;t pay attention to misconceptions. I pay attention to ignorant, pre-conceived notions. I pay attention to effects, results, and studies.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MisterDeadeye, post: 7402636, member: 611015"] You haven't done any "teaching". You've jumped in the topic screaming, "Drugs are bad, mmkay!" and called us all stupid. I've done a lot of research on different drugs, and their effects on brain chemistry(as well as their effects on various systems in the body, but those effects are almost all short-term, usually when you're on the drug itself), and I've done a few different drugs. I've seen what different drugs do to people's lives, and what harmful effects come from long term drug use for different drugs. I've come to the conclusion that most of the drugs condemned by the nation aren't condemned by the world. In fact, there are some places where certain drug use is seen as holy, spiritual. Speeding up someone's digestive system doesn't necessarily mean harm. Slowing down or speeding up someone's heart rate doesn't necessarily mean harm. Feeling happy while you're on the drug then immediately feeling sad afterward doesn't necessarily mean harm. You have to understand serotonin, dopamine, etc., and their receptors, and which drugs bind to which receptors. You have to understand the different drugs' half lives, and understand which part of the body they are stored. It's funny that you say once people go into the medical field, they start to understand what you're speaking of(you haven't actually spoke of anything, actually. Paraphrasing, but nonetheless, "My wife and I know things. I've seen things. You're stupid."). I've read a ton of different studies by different people with Ph.D's and M.D's in different things ranging from Biology to Psychology; Chemistry to Neurosciences; Biochemistry to Mollecular Physiology. I've seen different tables and formulas explaining different effects of different drugs on the brain and on a person's mind. These are all real professionals, in real fields, with real studies, with real volunteers and participants. Tell us about these tests you've seen. Show us how every drug that you don't need is harmful. If you really think you understand what's going on, explain. If not, keep telling us that we're wrong while you're right while not proving anything. Regarding your earlier posts, just stating that "any drug or chemical that you don't NEED is harmful to your body" is completely ignorant and ironic, it's almost incomprehensible. Are you aware of every single hormone and receptor in the brain? Are you aware of every single chemical's purpose in the brain? Do you understand the purpose of the pineal gland? If you do, I'd be quite surprised as even experts in medicine and other sciences don't know what the purpose is. They don't know the reason for dreams, or their effects on our minds. That's one of the reasons you're already wrong. Another reason you're wrong is that you want to start arguing semantics. There is a dictionary definition of drug. Drugs are substances that react physiologically. Do you know how many drugs there are? Do you how many drugs we classify as "safe"? The fact(not some clouded misconception, by the way) remains that while drugs effect the body, they aren't all necessarily safe or dangerous. Certain chemicals have negative effects on the body. Chemicals containing arsenic are obviously an example of the negative effects on the body. Caffeine is a stimulant much like amphetamines, but it's legal. It's considered safe by most. Acetaminophen is considered safe by most. Unfortunately, even following recommended doses of Tylenol can ruin your liver. That doesn't seem very safe, now does it? The third, most definitely not last, but the last I'm willing to discuss, reason you're wrong is that you don't even know what chemical or drug I'm talking about. You don't know all of the research that's been done on the specific chemical/drug I'm talking about. You have no idea on dosage or anything more complex than "it's a drug." If you want to go into a deeper discussion of brain chemistry and hormones and different drugs' effects on different hormone receptors, come at me bro. I've actually done research. Reading text books and listening to professors isn't research. I haven't done cocaine, or heroin, or ecstasy. I've done MDMA, though. I've done LSD. I've smoked plenty of weed. I've also done different research chemicals. I've taken magic mushrooms, and I've used alcohol(although I don't necessarily care for it). I've taken hydrocodone with acetaminophen, codeine, and different benzodiazepines. I've taken different doses of each, and used them for different lengths of time. I'm not saying it's necessarily research, but I have used a blood pressure monitor while experiencing some of them. I'm not stupid, I have no clouded judgment, and I don't pay attention to misconceptions. I pay attention to ignorant, pre-conceived notions. I pay attention to effects, results, and studies. [/QUOTE]

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