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<blockquote data-quote="BOOMINGRANDPA" data-source="post: 8555845" data-attributes="member: 671921"><p>they are very good subs just no one cares about them cause they pioneers but they have dual spider, good coil and single piece cone $70 on ebay, where i got mine it&#039;s pretty loud ported with about 500rms.. if u do ported u really need ss filter pioneer amps don&#039;t have that u should look at rockford 1200.1 super well reviewed amp does about 1350rms from what i&#039;ve seen.. if u aren&#039;t looking to rattle car to death the 8601 is fine but if u doing sealed and u want decently loud u may need more power., lots of amp options for under $250., u know what maybe good is a ppi 1000.1 saw one on ebay for $111 it&#039;s a very small amp but it&#039;s very tightly packed has good reviews., i&#039;ve thought about getting one.. ps they have 9601 on amazon but it&#039;s $257 rockford is $242 better amp, between the rf 500,750and 1200 they have about 2500 basically 5 star reviews of course u could get a cab amp but thats alot of power 1600rms., do u have 0ga wire if so get a cab set gain about 25%..</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="BOOMINGRANDPA, post: 8555845, member: 671921"] they are very good subs just no one cares about them cause they pioneers but they have dual spider, good coil and single piece cone $70 on ebay, where i got mine it's pretty loud ported with about 500rms.. if u do ported u really need ss filter pioneer amps don't have that u should look at rockford 1200.1 super well reviewed amp does about 1350rms from what i've seen.. if u aren't looking to rattle car to death the 8601 is fine but if u doing sealed and u want decently loud u may need more power., lots of amp options for under $250., u know what maybe good is a ppi 1000.1 saw one on ebay for $111 it's a very small amp but it's very tightly packed has good reviews., i've thought about getting one.. ps they have 9601 on amazon but it's $257 rockford is $242 better amp, between the rf 500,750and 1200 they have about 2500 basically 5 star reviews of course u could get a cab amp but thats alot of power 1600rms., do u have 0ga wire if so get a cab set gain about 25%.. [/QUOTE]

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