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Message: <blockquote data-quote="azimuth" data-source="post: 3676222" data-attributes="member: 566682"><p>only with younger people. not with the over 35 crowd. he was a national champion in wrestling in college 3 times. missed the olympic team by 1 place. he'll back your claim when he was a younger man, but now, he swears by it. btw. he was way beyond that point in college with free weights. not just in strength, but obviously endurance. he swore by the clean and jerk. he says that any young athlete that isn't doing the clean and jerk as part of a work out routine cannot match up in explosive power with someone who does.</p></blockquote><p></p>

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