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<blockquote data-quote="squeak9798" data-source="post: 3984675" data-attributes="member: 555320"><p>Look at many of the accounts in the Bible (for example) which are integral parts of the story/myth/legend/religion. They are hardly what would be considered stories of good "morals". Many of them include genocide, discrimination, murder, ****, etc.</p><p></p><p><em>Can they</em> provide a good moral compass ? Yes, if you ignore large parts of the story and pick-and-choose which parts you wish to follow in order to obtain your morals. But you don't <em>need</em> religion to have good morals. If the only reason you have good morals is because of your religious beliefs....that's a scary thought indeed. Lets hope an individual never loses those beliefs if they <em>need</em> them to act morally //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif</p><p></p><p>It can be demonstrated that religion is not necessary for good moral and altruistic actions. So to tout that as a benefit of religion I think is a bit cockeyed.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The meaning to my life is loving those who I hold dear and raising my children to the best of my abilities. I don't need a meaning beyond that.</p><p></p><p>As Richard Feynman said (not a direct quote, but the essence is intact); I'm okay with not having all of the answers. I live my life happily (for the most part //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif ) by attributing meaning <em>to</em> life from those things that mean the most <em>in</em> my life.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Read more Richard Feynman //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif</p><p></p><p></p><p>I guess I would disagree.</p><p></p><p>On an individual level, the value and purpose to my life is in my ability to love and to share. To pass knowledge and experience on to future generations so that they too can enjoy life.</p><p></p><p></p><p>In the grand scheme of things we are only as important as the [likely] hundreds of millions of other planets with living organisms on them.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Statistically it's true ! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif</p><p></p><p>But on a more serious note, it goes both ways. Theists believe (no pun intended) they have something up on atheists. Hell, they believe they have something up on theists of a different deity.</p><p></p><p>]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="squeak9798, post: 3984675, member: 555320"] Look at many of the accounts in the Bible (for example) which are integral parts of the story/myth/legend/religion. They are hardly what would be considered stories of good "morals". Many of them include genocide, discrimination, murder, ****, etc. [I]Can they[/I] provide a good moral compass ? Yes, if you ignore large parts of the story and pick-and-choose which parts you wish to follow in order to obtain your morals. But you don't [I]need[/I] religion to have good morals. If the only reason you have good morals is because of your religious beliefs....that's a scary thought indeed. Lets hope an individual never loses those beliefs if they [I]need[/I] them to act morally [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif[/IMG] It can be demonstrated that religion is not necessary for good moral and altruistic actions. So to tout that as a benefit of religion I think is a bit cockeyed. The meaning to my life is loving those who I hold dear and raising my children to the best of my abilities. I don't need a meaning beyond that. As Richard Feynman said (not a direct quote, but the essence is intact); I'm okay with not having all of the answers. I live my life happily (for the most part [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif[/IMG] ) by attributing meaning [I]to[/I] life from those things that mean the most [I]in[/I] my life. Read more Richard Feynman [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif[/IMG] I guess I would disagree. On an individual level, the value and purpose to my life is in my ability to love and to share. To pass knowledge and experience on to future generations so that they too can enjoy life. In the grand scheme of things we are only as important as the [likely] hundreds of millions of other planets with living organisms on them. Statistically it's true ! [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif[/IMG] But on a more serious note, it goes both ways. Theists believe (no pun intended) they have something up on atheists. Hell, they believe they have something up on theists of a different deity. ] [/QUOTE]
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