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<blockquote data-quote="Lugnutz" data-source="post: 5987679" data-attributes="member: 603567">Guillen did have better offensive numbers in that time frame than Jeter.&nbsp; How about you reference posts instead of fabricating stories? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gifWhy is it funny?&nbsp; Neither are capable anymore of playing adequate defense.&nbsp; Magglio is still adequate, but lacks the ideal speed especially in Comerica where there is a big gap in right center.&nbsp; Only you can run 4.4 40&#039;s in your 30&#039;s.What facts?&nbsp; The ones you make up in your head?&nbsp; Who have I said off with their head? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif I&#039;m sorry you have no logical thought process.&nbsp; I made a mistake when I said Magglio would be owed 15 million next year, it&#039;s actually 18 million.&nbsp; He is not worth 18 million period.&nbsp; Do you understand?&nbsp; The Tigers can achieve his production from players 4-6 million.&nbsp; Aside from his 2007 season, in this economy and market, his 2006 and 2008 numbers are not worth 18 million.&nbsp; Only you would expect him to repeat 2007 numbers at age 36, given he has never put up such numbers at any point in his career.&nbsp; Now that I&#039;m done with that tangent, guys like Polanco, Galaraga, and Lyon have struggled badly, but where have I said get rid of them? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif&nbsp; They all have friendly contracts and won&#039;t cripple the franchise, one that needs to shed payroll.Odds are highly against Cabrera slumps for 50 games, baring an injury.&nbsp; He did slump the entire first half of last year.&nbsp; Didn&#039;t mention a think.&nbsp; His slump still wasn&#039;t as bad as Magglio&#039;s.Problem is, he isn&#039;t hitting with any authority.&nbsp; He has a hit streak going on now, but only 2 homers in almost 50 games.&nbsp; He may turn it around?&nbsp; How long do we wait?&nbsp; Till his contract kicks in and the team is stuck with an aging player who has nothing left and is getting paid 36 million?He wasn&#039;t struggling like this last year, and he didn&#039;t have a vesting option last year.&nbsp; If he was an unrestricted free agent, or at least had a buy out, I would keep him around the entire year.If you ran Cleveland, you&#039;d still have Bortolo Colon //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gifHe was still producing, Detroit gave up zero young talent for him, and his contract wasn&#039;t as bad as Magglio&#039;s.&nbsp; The Tigers also had a lot of payroll to work with.I tried going in 2005.&nbsp; Good luck even getting tickets.&nbsp; You had to be special or something to even get tickets here.&nbsp; Your best bet to find tickets is through brokers which jack the price up almost double.&nbsp; In the end it wasn&#039;t worth it.&nbsp; Maybe in southern California they won&#039;t feel the All Star game is that important.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lugnutz, post: 5987679, member: 603567"] Guillen did have better offensive numbers in that time frame than Jeter. How about you reference posts instead of fabricating stories? [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif[/IMG] Why is it funny? Neither are capable anymore of playing adequate defense. Magglio is still adequate, but lacks the ideal speed especially in Comerica where there is a big gap in right center. Only you can run 4.4 40's in your 30's. What facts? The ones you make up in your head? Who have I said off with their head? [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif[/IMG] I'm sorry you have no logical thought process. I made a mistake when I said Magglio would be owed 15 million next year, it's actually 18 million. He is not worth 18 million period. Do you understand? The Tigers can achieve his production from players 4-6 million. Aside from his 2007 season, in this economy and market, his 2006 and 2008 numbers are not worth 18 million. Only you would expect him to repeat 2007 numbers at age 36, given he has never put up such numbers at any point in his career. Now that I'm done with that tangent, guys like Polanco, Galaraga, and Lyon have struggled badly, but where have I said get rid of them? [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif[/IMG] They all have friendly contracts and won't cripple the franchise, one that needs to shed payroll. Odds are highly against Cabrera slumps for 50 games, baring an injury. He did slump the entire first half of last year. Didn't mention a think. His slump still wasn't as bad as Magglio's. Problem is, he isn't hitting with any authority. He has a hit streak going on now, but only 2 homers in almost 50 games. He may turn it around? How long do we wait? Till his contract kicks in and the team is stuck with an aging player who has nothing left and is getting paid 36 million? He wasn't struggling like this last year, and he didn't have a vesting option last year. If he was an unrestricted free agent, or at least had a buy out, I would keep him around the entire year. If you ran Cleveland, you'd still have Bortolo Colon [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif[/IMG] He was still producing, Detroit gave up zero young talent for him, and his contract wasn't as bad as Magglio's. The Tigers also had a lot of payroll to work with. I tried going in 2005. Good luck even getting tickets. You had to be special or something to even get tickets here. Your best bet to find tickets is through brokers which jack the price up almost double. In the end it wasn't worth it. Maybe in southern California they won't feel the All Star game is that important. [/QUOTE]

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