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<blockquote data-quote="naughty240" data-source="post: 5242751" data-attributes="member: 603137"><p>You have to watch him play everyday to understand the guy. He is not a box score player and the voters/writers made that clear with the votes. Yes I agree Placido is a great player and he did have a hell of a season. Doesnt give him the right to win it every year. no its not a achievement award but yes reputation always comes in.</p><p></p><p>You bring up HR and RBI. Pedroia is a two hitter, its not his job. You need to get on base and let the middle of the order drive you in just like you said.</p><p></p><p>Compare Placido and Dustin in 07 and 08. Dustin had a better season sure his average and obp are a little less. Everything else is better. I would say Placido like Dustin had great seasons as far as second baseman. Dustins was better. You cant say take away so and so cause that is playing make believe. Runs are based on the team yes. But you still have to get on and score and run the bases properly</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/p/polanpl01.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.baseball-reference.com/p/polanpl01.shtml</a> Placido</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/p/pedrodu01.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.baseball-reference.com/p/pedrodu01.shtml</a> Dustin</p><p></p><p>At the end of the day it was MVP of the 08 season, he played on a team where the line up was a shell of itself due to injuries and Manny being an asshat. He won a GG and is at the top of most stats in the AL. Look at the Baseball reference stats at the bottom they are all there and ranked. You tell me who should have won.</p><p></p><p>Jermain Dye? Dustin had 13 less RBI and he hits second what does that tell you about hitting with RISP, Dustin also had 10 more doubles, a better obp and struck out about half as much and had a better average.</p><p></p><p>The kid is like 5'9" 175 lbs this is amazing what he has done.</p><p></p><p>People are robbed for GG often just asked Alex Gonzales his one season in Boston was pure magic and he didn't win.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="naughty240, post: 5242751, member: 603137"] You have to watch him play everyday to understand the guy. He is not a box score player and the voters/writers made that clear with the votes. Yes I agree Placido is a great player and he did have a hell of a season. Doesnt give him the right to win it every year. no its not a achievement award but yes reputation always comes in. You bring up HR and RBI. Pedroia is a two hitter, its not his job. You need to get on base and let the middle of the order drive you in just like you said. Compare Placido and Dustin in 07 and 08. Dustin had a better season sure his average and obp are a little less. Everything else is better. I would say Placido like Dustin had great seasons as far as second baseman. Dustins was better. You cant say take away so and so cause that is playing make believe. Runs are based on the team yes. But you still have to get on and score and run the bases properly [URL="http://www.baseball-reference.com/p/polanpl01.shtml"]http://www.baseball-reference.com/p/polanpl01.shtml[/URL] Placido [URL="http://www.baseball-reference.com/p/pedrodu01.shtml"]http://www.baseball-reference.com/p/pedrodu01.shtml[/URL] Dustin At the end of the day it was MVP of the 08 season, he played on a team where the line up was a shell of itself due to injuries and Manny being an asshat. He won a GG and is at the top of most stats in the AL. Look at the Baseball reference stats at the bottom they are all there and ranked. You tell me who should have won. Jermain Dye? Dustin had 13 less RBI and he hits second what does that tell you about hitting with RISP, Dustin also had 10 more doubles, a better obp and struck out about half as much and had a better average. The kid is like 5'9" 175 lbs this is amazing what he has done. People are robbed for GG often just asked Alex Gonzales his one season in Boston was pure magic and he didn't win. [/QUOTE]
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