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<blockquote data-quote="OldManTod" data-source="post: 3606179" data-attributes="member: 557707">Nice JN - I had one and (regrettably) did a swap for something else.Hey Bill - right on about the P22 - truth be told, I had one a couple years ago that jammed often, I cleaned it up and quantified it with the guy I traded to (he is a gunsmith).&nbsp; Fast forward to this past summer and a couple guys from work wanted to go shooting so I picked one up for like 280 at B&amp;amp;T in Middleburg (Rick and Jerry are great guys, they are the only gun shop I will spend money at, most my acquisitions are by trade or private sale).&nbsp; Its a great piece to have for teaching beginners and for training events.As far as stopping force/ability - keep in mind that Cho and that nutjob at Success Tech (IIRC) used Walther P22 - I say that to say that even a .22 round can be used for self defense. I understand that the .22 round is dangerous because it doesn&#039;t just impact and destroy a hole straight through, but it enters the cavity and ricochet&#039;s around causing more damage.As far as the KelTec - I have the 3rd generation (the latest) so reliability has been right on - no failures.&nbsp; It is a handful to shoot, it isnt the kind of firearm that you take to range to spend shells.&nbsp; If you are interested I can (swallow it) and meet you at Royal Ridge on 42 there between Bwick and Medina to let you shoot before you buy?I have plenty of stories about Royal Ridge as well - I will have to PM you some of the stories later on mang.- T</blockquote>

[QUOTE="OldManTod, post: 3606179, member: 557707"] Nice JN - I had one and (regrettably) did a swap for something else. Hey Bill - right on about the P22 - truth be told, I had one a couple years ago that jammed often, I cleaned it up and quantified it with the guy I traded to (he is a gunsmith). Fast forward to this past summer and a couple guys from work wanted to go shooting so I picked one up for like 280 at B&T in Middleburg (Rick and Jerry are great guys, they are the only gun shop I will spend money at, most my acquisitions are by trade or private sale). Its a great piece to have for teaching beginners and for training events. As far as stopping force/ability - keep in mind that Cho and that nutjob at Success Tech (IIRC) used Walther P22 - I say that to say that even a .22 round can be used for self defense. I understand that the .22 round is dangerous because it doesn't just impact and destroy a hole straight through, but it enters the cavity and ricochet's around causing more damage. As far as the KelTec - I have the 3rd generation (the latest) so reliability has been right on - no failures. It is a handful to shoot, it isnt the kind of firearm that you take to range to spend shells. If you are interested I can (swallow it) and meet you at Royal Ridge on 42 there between Bwick and Medina to let you shoot before you buy? I have plenty of stories about Royal Ridge as well - I will have to PM you some of the stories later on mang. - T [/QUOTE]

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