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<blockquote data-quote="bbeljefe" data-source="post: 8163417" data-attributes="member: 655960">That was pretty well said, albeit just as collectivist as the collectivism you argued against... but in another way.And in the first paragraph by &quot;Where does it authorize&quot;, I presume you mean the US constitution. To which, I would ask... have you signed it? I haven&#039;t and wouldn&#039;t. In fact, who has signed it in the past 200 odd years? To my knowledge, not one man, woman or child has been given the opportunity to sign and legally bind themselves to that document since the original signatories signed it in private, without so much as offering blacks, women or white men under 21 or whom did not own property to read and sign it.Check out Lysander Spooner&#039;s tome, Constitution of No Authority. I think you&#039;ll appreciate the critical thought he put into the notion that a band of self described rulers could somehow create a contract document that affects every man, woman and child born in an arbitrarily decided upon area in perpetuity... with not one of them ever being afforded the opportunity to voluntarily enter into it or, more importantly, refrain from abiding its dictates.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="bbeljefe, post: 8163417, member: 655960"] That was pretty well said, albeit just as collectivist as the collectivism you argued against... but in another way. And in the first paragraph by "Where does it authorize", I presume you mean the US constitution. To which, I would ask... have you signed it? I haven't and wouldn't. In fact, who has signed it in the past 200 odd years? To my knowledge, not one man, woman or child has been given the opportunity to sign and legally bind themselves to that document since the original signatories signed it in private, without so much as offering blacks, women or white men under 21 or whom did not own property to read and sign it. Check out Lysander Spooner's tome, [I]Constitution of No Authority[/I]. I think you'll appreciate the critical thought he put into the notion that a band of self described rulers could somehow create a contract document that affects every man, woman and child born in an arbitrarily decided upon area in perpetuity... with not one of them ever being afforded the opportunity to voluntarily enter into it or, more importantly, refrain from abiding its dictates. [/QUOTE]

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