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<blockquote data-quote="SHOemup233" data-source="post: 5234756" data-attributes="member: 578389">Exactly. Everyone knows that the in the right enclosure, any sub can sound good. Hell, I&#039;ve seen L7&#039;s used in SQ competition. This does NOT make them SQ subs though. That is my point. :Dam n mlstrass. I wasn&#039;t expecting you to jump on the offensive. I am a big fan of your setup, and your boxes. I just don&#039;t agree that the HDC&#039;s are SQ subs. In the right setup they can sound good, sure, that doesn&#039;t make them SQ subs.If it isn&#039;t played &quot;as the artist intended&quot;, is isn&#039;t being played accurately. I assume you realize that. Most people wouldn&#039;t want to have a real SQ car, because it would not fit their specific tastes.I assumed based on the fact that you have 2 15&quot; SPL based subs. I assumed that if you didn&#039;t like to have more &quot;bass filled&quot; music, you wouldn&#039;t have spent that much money on your setup. It could be wrong, but it isn&#039;t a bad assumption by any means...Although assumptions are always bad. Sorry.Again, you missed my point with hitting low entirely. I understand your subs are loud down low. But what did they hit at higher frequencies? What was your peak? I would guess in the 149-151 range maybe? So since a 3db decrease would sound half as loud, in theory, at 31 hz it may sound half as loud as the upper frequencies. Correct me if I&#039;m wrong on that guess and you peaked at 148, if so, you proved me wrong.If anyone has a choice of music in the 20&#039;s...although I can&#039;t fathom how, the HDC&#039;s should NOT be their choice. The HDC&#039;s were not meant to play that low, 20-25 hz.The big problem on these forums is a bunch of noobs coming in here and saying they want &quot;SQL&quot; subs when they listen to mostly rap. They don&#039;t want sound quality at all, they just want their subs to be loud. They want their subs to &quot;sound good.&quot; By sound good, they mean &quot;my one friend has some audiobahns and they BANG, and they don&#039;t sound bad at all.&quot; They are comparing their subs to crap. So when we recommend them the icon, Q, mag, because they are all known to be the best &quot;SQL&quot; subs hands down, they are disappointed because they aren&#039;t loud enough. They then pick up the HDC, BTL, etc. and are very pleased and then praise the SQ because their goal wasn&#039;t SQ in the first place.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="SHOemup233, post: 5234756, member: 578389"] Exactly. Everyone knows that the in the right enclosure, any sub can sound good. Hell, I've seen L7's used in SQ competition. This does NOT make them SQ subs though. That is my point. : Dam n mlstrass. I wasn't expecting you to jump on the offensive. I am a big fan of your setup, and your boxes. I just don't agree that the HDC's are SQ subs. In the right setup they can sound good, sure, that doesn't make them SQ subs. If it isn't played "as the artist intended", is isn't being played accurately. I assume you realize that. Most people wouldn't want to have a real SQ car, because it would not fit their specific tastes. I assumed based on the fact that you have 2 15" SPL based subs. I assumed that if you didn't like to have more "bass filled" music, you wouldn't have spent that much money on your setup. It could be wrong, but it isn't a bad assumption by any means...Although assumptions are always bad. Sorry. Again, you missed my point with hitting low entirely. I understand your subs are loud down low. But what did they hit at higher frequencies? What was your peak? I would guess in the 149-151 range maybe? So since a 3db decrease would sound half as loud, in theory, at 31 hz it may sound half as loud as the upper frequencies. Correct me if I'm wrong on that guess and you peaked at 148, if so, you proved me wrong. If anyone has a choice of music in the 20's...although I can't fathom how, the HDC's should NOT be their choice. The HDC's were not meant to play that low, 20-25 hz. The big problem on these forums is a bunch of noobs coming in here and saying they want "SQL" subs when they listen to mostly rap. They don't want sound quality at all, they just want their subs to be loud. They want their subs to "sound good." By sound good, they mean "my one friend has some audiobahns and they BANG, and they don't sound bad at all." They are comparing their subs to crap. So when we recommend them the icon, Q, mag, because they are all known to be the best "SQL" subs hands down, they are disappointed because they aren't loud enough. They then pick up the HDC, BTL, etc. and are very pleased and then praise the SQ because their goal wasn't SQ in the first place. [/QUOTE]

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