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<blockquote data-quote="T3mpest" data-source="post: 6459427" data-attributes="member: 560148">100% sure, go get winisd and model it yourself.&nbsp; Above tuning the port stops working at all and the box behaves as a sealed box of the same volume.&nbsp; Below tuning the port acts as a hole in the box as the frequencies are too low to be contained.&nbsp; Around tuning it acts as a hermholtz resonator.&nbsp; A bandpass box can give you more output up top, but really it won&#039;t fix the problem.My car can produce very lifelike drum attacks.&nbsp; With a good drum recording my car can reproduce drums comepletely accurately.&nbsp; Even to the point of feeling the air electrify on a sharp hit and making you blink.&nbsp; I&#039;ve been around drums all my life and my friends in the high school band have even agreed my car pulls them off convincingly.&nbsp; Not just tonally either, I mean I have the actual SPL of someone wailing on a drum kit.... I&#039;ve never had anyone set in my car without a &quot;holy shit&quot; face when I play a few well recorded tracks at a lifelike playback level.&nbsp; I&#039;d also like to mention I don&#039;t even have a sub in my car at the moment.&nbsp; Most of the attack and feel of a drum hit is located well above what a subwoofer will play.&nbsp; Even if you turn up your crossover your not likely to ever get what you want from your sub.&nbsp; Also not all tracks are recorded well which may be why you feel you setup is lacking.&nbsp; The best part of a drum runs from 80hz-300 with the attack on snares etc being even higher.&nbsp; To ever get what you want your going to need a badass set of component speakers.&nbsp; Not even necessarily big speaker with high xmax as alot of ppl will tell you.&nbsp; Just like really high frequencies midbass is mostly effeciency based.&nbsp; The best speakers I ever heard on drums was a set of JBL 2188h&#039;s.&nbsp; 3mm of xmax but 99db/1w/1m effecient.&nbsp; If I hadn&#039;t got a good deal on my xs69&#039;s that&#039;s what I would have used for sure.&nbsp; My XS&#039;s are a bit less effecient so not quite the same snap or overall volume, but they still get pretty ****ed loud and play quite a bit lower.&nbsp; Anyway download these three tracks to test your midbass, all three have well recorded drums in the opening.1. Cry Tough by poison2.move along by all american rejects.3.no excuses by Alice in ChainsTry those three and mess with your crossover points.&nbsp; Those tracks are easy to find on any file share and have great drums right in the opening.&nbsp; All three make people shit bricks in my car.&nbsp; Also I forgot to mention a bandpass also rolls off very fast past the upper end where you boost it.&nbsp; Odds are you&#039;ll get ALOT more output from say 80-120hz or so, but it will fall off super fast past that.&nbsp; You&#039;ll get loud but very muddy midbass and it won&#039;t sound crisp at all.&nbsp; The bottom part of the drum the third track for example, you&#039;ll get that darker muddy part really well but no attack when he hits it, just a humming sound.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="T3mpest, post: 6459427, member: 560148"] 100% sure, go get winisd and model it yourself. Above tuning the port stops working at all and the box behaves as a sealed box of the same volume. Below tuning the port acts as a hole in the box as the frequencies are too low to be contained. Around tuning it acts as a hermholtz resonator. A bandpass box can give you more output up top, but really it won't fix the problem. My car can produce very lifelike drum attacks. With a good drum recording my car can reproduce drums comepletely accurately. Even to the point of feeling the air electrify on a sharp hit and making you blink. I've been around drums all my life and my friends in the high school band have even agreed my car pulls them off convincingly. Not just tonally either, I mean I have the actual SPL of someone wailing on a drum kit.... I've never had anyone set in my car without a "holy shit" face when I play a few well recorded tracks at a lifelike playback level. I'd also like to mention I don't even have a sub in my car at the moment. Most of the attack and feel of a drum hit is located well above what a subwoofer will play. Even if you turn up your crossover your not likely to ever get what you want from your sub. Also not all tracks are recorded well which may be why you feel you setup is lacking. The best part of a drum runs from 80hz-300 with the attack on snares etc being even higher. To ever get what you want your going to need a badass set of component speakers. Not even necessarily big speaker with high xmax as alot of ppl will tell you. Just like really high frequencies midbass is mostly effeciency based. The best speakers I ever heard on drums was a set of JBL 2188h's. 3mm of xmax but 99db/1w/1m effecient. If I hadn't got a good deal on my xs69's that's what I would have used for sure. My XS's are a bit less effecient so not quite the same snap or overall volume, but they still get pretty ****ed loud and play quite a bit lower. Anyway download these three tracks to test your midbass, all three have well recorded drums in the opening. 1. Cry Tough by poison 2.move along by all american rejects. 3.no excuses by Alice in Chains Try those three and mess with your crossover points. Those tracks are easy to find on any file share and have great drums right in the opening. All three make people shit bricks in my car. Also I forgot to mention a bandpass also rolls off very fast past the upper end where you boost it. Odds are you'll get ALOT more output from say 80-120hz or so, but it will fall off super fast past that. You'll get loud but very muddy midbass and it won't sound crisp at all. The bottom part of the drum the third track for example, you'll get that darker muddy part really well but no attack when he hits it, just a humming sound. [/QUOTE]

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