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<blockquote data-quote="Electrodynamic" data-source="post: 5973339" data-attributes="member: 548723">Business-wise it makes sense to take the BM the direction I&#039;m taking it. Shallow mount subs are becoming more and more popular every day. And when I go after an application/market I make the best driver I can possible make. Sure it&#039;s not the old BM&#039;s, but neither the Mag or the new BM are what the old Mag&#039;s and BM&#039;s were. Enclosure sizes have gotten smaller, the drivers have gotten more linear (BL linearity is GREATLY improved), sound quality has improved, the drivers are half the weight, etc. You just can&#039;t port them like you could the other drivers. But like I said in a previous post, the Mag v3 is coming back and it&#039;ll be less expensive than ever and have higher power handling capabilities also. Who knows what that company may come out with concerning a lower powered driver in the future. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gifIf you a cheap inexpensive shallow sub, simply grab a Pioneer or Kenwood. Expecting the best (literally) performance for 1/4 the cost of the current best performing shallow subwoofer is asking for a lot. I don&#039;t build &quot;cheap&quot; speakers. If that&#039;s what you want, there are plenty of drivers out there to fit the bill.And now that the Mag v4 is what it is, the BM follows suit with the &quot;Baby Mag&quot; very well. It is a much smaller offering in every way. With ~500 watts in a tiny (0.5 ft^3 cubes) enclosure the BM will perform very similarly to the Mag v4 ... especially in LFE. Note that it is half the enclosure volume with even more low frequency extension than the Mag v4 offers in an enclosure that&#039;s double the size. Two BM v2&#039;s will have the ability to out-spl a single Mag v4 in the same sized overall enclosure (twin BM&#039;s will need 1.0 f^3 cubed and one Mag v4 will need 1.0 ft^3 sealed). Doubling the surface area while keeping the enclosure size the same has its advantages. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif But the main thing is mounting depth. Mounting depth is smaller than a credit card and overall depth isn&#039;t much more than that. You can shove the new BM into all kinds of places. Also weighing less than 12 lbs is pretty neat too.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Electrodynamic, post: 5973339, member: 548723"] Business-wise it makes sense to take the BM the direction I'm taking it. Shallow mount subs are becoming more and more popular every day. And when I go after an application/market I make the best driver I can possible make. Sure it's not the old BM's, but neither the Mag or the new BM are what the old Mag's and BM's were. Enclosure sizes have gotten smaller, the drivers have gotten more linear (BL linearity is GREATLY improved), sound quality has improved, the drivers are half the weight, etc. You just can't port them like you could the other drivers. But like I said in a previous post, the Mag v3 is coming back and it'll be less expensive than ever and have higher power handling capabilities also. Who knows what that company may come out with concerning a lower powered driver in the future. [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif[/IMG] If you a cheap inexpensive shallow sub, simply grab a Pioneer or Kenwood. Expecting the best (literally) performance for 1/4 the cost of the current best performing shallow subwoofer is asking for a lot. I don't build "cheap" speakers. If that's what you want, there are plenty of drivers out there to fit the bill. And now that the Mag v4 is what it is, the BM follows suit with the "Baby Mag" very well. It is a much smaller offering in every way. With ~500 watts in a tiny (0.5 ft^3 cubes) enclosure the BM will perform very similarly to the Mag v4 ... especially in LFE. Note that it is [I]half[/I] the enclosure volume with even more low frequency extension than the Mag v4 offers in an enclosure that's double the size. Two BM v2's will have the ability to out-spl a single Mag v4 in the same sized overall enclosure (twin BM's will need 1.0 f^3 cubed and one Mag v4 will need 1.0 ft^3 sealed). Doubling the surface area while keeping the enclosure size the same has its advantages. [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif[/IMG] But the main thing is mounting depth. Mounting depth is smaller than a credit card and overall depth isn't much more than that. You can shove the new BM into all kinds of places. Also weighing less than 12 lbs is pretty neat too. [/QUOTE]

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