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<blockquote data-quote="tpmeredith" data-source="post: 7223707" data-attributes="member: 625173">I was tempted to recommend a trainer too, makes a big difference in the gym if you actually have training, doesn&#039;t quite matter if they &quot;went to college for it&quot; as long as they&#039;re a reputable trainer. A lot of people go to the gym and say they don&#039;t need a trainer and will just watch others and use the internet, and well they tend to get hurt more and have less progress.Especially considering you&#039;ve had a shoulder injury in the past, might not be a bad idea. I had a shoulder injury a few years ago (tore my cartilage in my left shoulder, had to have scope surgery to reconnect), and now after working with the head trainer at our local gym for over a year i&#039;m doubtful I&#039;ll ever hurt it again, and in fact my shoulder I once injured is now stronger than my other shoulder. (Scar tissue tends to be stronger if healed up correctly)I tend to agree on the supplement thing, all I really use is preworkout and protein. Occasionally I&#039;ll throw in cycles of creatine but I honestly don&#039;t notice a difference, and I usually take quite a bit of it too. Your diet will make a difference faster than supplements ever willPersonally I think it&#039;s good to follow a build aka bulk then cut cycle, gain ~10 pounds, then cut the bodyfat, gain again, etc. All really depends on your goals</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tpmeredith, post: 7223707, member: 625173"] I was tempted to recommend a trainer too, makes a big difference in the gym if you actually have training, doesn't quite matter if they "went to college for it" as long as they're a reputable trainer. A lot of people go to the gym and say they don't need a trainer and will just watch others and use the internet, and well they tend to get hurt more and have less progress. Especially considering you've had a shoulder injury in the past, might not be a bad idea. I had a shoulder injury a few years ago (tore my cartilage in my left shoulder, had to have scope surgery to reconnect), and now after working with the head trainer at our local gym for over a year i'm doubtful I'll ever hurt it again, and in fact my shoulder I once injured is now stronger than my other shoulder. (Scar tissue tends to be stronger if healed up correctly) I tend to agree on the supplement thing, all I really use is preworkout and protein. Occasionally I'll throw in cycles of creatine but I honestly don't notice a difference, and I usually take quite a bit of it too. Your diet will make a difference faster than supplements ever will Personally I think it's good to follow a build aka bulk then cut cycle, gain ~10 pounds, then cut the bodyfat, gain again, etc. All really depends on your goals [/QUOTE]

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