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<blockquote data-quote="Ctesibius" data-source="post: 6300361" data-attributes="member: 564131">Let&#039;s try this another route.Define &quot;great music&quot;.Let&#039;s survey a couple hypothetical characters as well.First, we ask a classically trained conductor who defines &quot;great music&quot; based on it&#039;s level of technicality, design of the harmonies, timing, etc.&nbsp; He uses a more objective approach to defining the term.Then we go and ask a random guy off the street.&nbsp; He defines &quot;great music&quot; as what music best fits his personal tastes.&nbsp; He may be a huge KISS fan, for example.&nbsp; So he gives them as an example of &quot;great music&quot;.You would come along and tell us that music quality is not subjective and no matter how much we like our favorite music it can never be great unless it follows the rules defined by the conductor.I would say yes, in order to more objectively identify &quot;great music&quot; you would have to follow the definition given by the conductor.&nbsp; But, for example, not everybody likes the sound of that music, no matter how &quot;great&quot; it might be.&nbsp; Or, some people aren&#039;t worried about how technically &quot;great&quot; their music is as long as it fits their personal taste.&nbsp; So while I may not agree that we can call their preference for musical tastes &quot;great&quot; in the literal sense of the word I can understand why they are more concerned with &quot;great to them&quot; than the overall objective &quot;greatness&quot; of their music, and in turn consider their music &quot;great music&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ctesibius, post: 6300361, member: 564131"] Let's try this another route. Define "great music". Let's survey a couple hypothetical characters as well. First, we ask a classically trained conductor who defines "great music" based on it's level of technicality, design of the harmonies, timing, etc. He uses a more objective approach to defining the term. Then we go and ask a random guy off the street. He defines "great music" as what music best fits his personal tastes. He may be a huge KISS fan, for example. So he gives them as an example of "great music". You would come along and tell us that music quality is not subjective and no matter how much we like our favorite music it can never be [I]great[/I] unless it follows the rules defined by the conductor. I would say yes, in order to more objectively identify "great music" you would have to follow the definition given by the conductor. But, for example, not everybody likes the sound of that music, no matter how "great" it might be. Or, some people aren't worried about how technically "great" their music is as long as it fits their personal taste. So while I may not agree that we can call their preference for musical tastes "great" in the literal sense of the word I can understand why they are more concerned with "great to them" than the overall objective "greatness" of their music, and in turn consider their music "great music". [/QUOTE]

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