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<blockquote data-quote="Jeffdachef" data-source="post: 8674518" data-attributes="member: 650438"><p>you can also go active network mode with your pioneer and can choose a superior tweeter than those type Rs. Some massive CT2s and </p><p></p><p></p><p>1st shop is right, 2nd shop is ghetto take them off your list completely. you'll have too many tweeters in the equation with that setup which will cause unwanted peaks and phase issues. The 3rd shop with the components on the doors is fine too if they can angle the tweets on axis. Whatever you do, you need the tweets to be firing directly towards your ears. About the distance between mid and tweet, that is all taken care of by your head unit's time alignment if you wire the mids and tweets active, time alignment is a function on the head unit that delays the signal so that all frequencies from each driver hits your ears at the same time which creates a center stage aka live performance on your dash. You do have a pioneer head unit so I would suggest ditching the passive crossover altogether and wiring the tweets to channel 1 and 2, mids to 3 and 4. Rear speakers left STOCK on head unit power. This would get you the best blend between mid range and tweeter, best clarity, best sound stage due to independent crossover and time alignment control.</p><p></p><p>Alpine type R is very mediocre to me I never liked the sound but it pleases most of the general populace. Its like the beats by dre equivalent in the car audio speakers/subwoofers. Their amps, head units and sound processors are great though. For 6x9s, You can look at JBL offerings, polk audio offerings for a good bit less for basically the same consumer level sound quality but they are quite a bit louder than the type Rs. If you want top level sound quality gear, look at hybrid audio technologies, audiofrog etc... Mid level gear would be image dynamics xs 6x9 and alpine type X. There's also a budget audiophile gear section i can recommend that requires active network mode setup and a 6x9 to 6.5 adapter. Most of the good cheap stuff thats FAAAAAAR better than alpine type Rs are in 6.5 form factor sadly. Also a budget 5 channel option to the alpine is <a href="https://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_40253_NVX-JAD900.5.html" target="_blank">https://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_40253_NVX-JAD900.5.html</a>. Its all your choice on if you want to spend more or less on all this equipment.</p><p></p><p>Let me also help you filter out your shops.</p><p></p><p>Whatever shop knows what running active network crossovers+time alignment is and also knows how to tune your system/EQ/crossover with an RTA, DSP tuning, acoustical treatments, sound deadening, recreating factory seal/gasket, knows how to build and design custom ported/4th order/6th order and transmission line enclosures would be your absolute go to shop that definitely knows their sh*t and how to get you sounding perfect. Any other shop saying they tune by ear, have no idea what running active or setting time alignment or what proper acoustical door treatments are, is an below average joe blow brick and mortar out to get your money. stay away.</p><p></p><p>This is how an audio engineer preps his doors for the speakers to sound absolutely perfect. <a href="http:////topic/570687-2014-accord-sport-sq-build-keep_hope_alive/" target="_blank">https://www.caraudio.com/topic/570687-2014-accord-sport-sq-build-keep_hope_alive/</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jeffdachef, post: 8674518, member: 650438"] you can also go active network mode with your pioneer and can choose a superior tweeter than those type Rs. Some massive CT2s and 1st shop is right, 2nd shop is ghetto take them off your list completely. you'll have too many tweeters in the equation with that setup which will cause unwanted peaks and phase issues. The 3rd shop with the components on the doors is fine too if they can angle the tweets on axis. Whatever you do, you need the tweets to be firing directly towards your ears. About the distance between mid and tweet, that is all taken care of by your head unit's time alignment if you wire the mids and tweets active, time alignment is a function on the head unit that delays the signal so that all frequencies from each driver hits your ears at the same time which creates a center stage aka live performance on your dash. You do have a pioneer head unit so I would suggest ditching the passive crossover altogether and wiring the tweets to channel 1 and 2, mids to 3 and 4. Rear speakers left STOCK on head unit power. This would get you the best blend between mid range and tweeter, best clarity, best sound stage due to independent crossover and time alignment control. Alpine type R is very mediocre to me I never liked the sound but it pleases most of the general populace. Its like the beats by dre equivalent in the car audio speakers/subwoofers. Their amps, head units and sound processors are great though. For 6x9s, You can look at JBL offerings, polk audio offerings for a good bit less for basically the same consumer level sound quality but they are quite a bit louder than the type Rs. If you want top level sound quality gear, look at hybrid audio technologies, audiofrog etc... Mid level gear would be image dynamics xs 6x9 and alpine type X. There's also a budget audiophile gear section i can recommend that requires active network mode setup and a 6x9 to 6.5 adapter. Most of the good cheap stuff thats FAAAAAAR better than alpine type Rs are in 6.5 form factor sadly. Also a budget 5 channel option to the alpine is [URL="https://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_40253_NVX-JAD900.5.html"]https://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_40253_NVX-JAD900.5.html[/URL]. Its all your choice on if you want to spend more or less on all this equipment. Let me also help you filter out your shops. Whatever shop knows what running active network crossovers+time alignment is and also knows how to tune your system/EQ/crossover with an RTA, DSP tuning, acoustical treatments, sound deadening, recreating factory seal/gasket, knows how to build and design custom ported/4th order/6th order and transmission line enclosures would be your absolute go to shop that definitely knows their sh*t and how to get you sounding perfect. Any other shop saying they tune by ear, have no idea what running active or setting time alignment or what proper acoustical door treatments are, is an below average joe blow brick and mortar out to get your money. stay away. This is how an audio engineer preps his doors for the speakers to sound absolutely perfect. [URL="http:////topic/570687-2014-accord-sport-sq-build-keep_hope_alive/"]https://www.caraudio.com/topic/570687-2014-accord-sport-sq-build-keep_hope_alive/[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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