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<blockquote data-quote="Bassick" data-source="post: 8160475" data-attributes="member: 656783"><p>First I would like to explain what I mean about "Sound All Around". "Sound All Around" means, experiencing music from the artist or vocalist point of view performing with a live band. When a live band is performing all the instruments are either to the side of or behind the vocalist. I know everyone is going to ring in and say, "that is so that the listeners can hear the stage imaging". But what if you are the vocalist? The center stage or placement of the vocalist is the perfect spot to hear all the instruments without one or the other being to dominant so that the vocalist can feel the instruments, thus better acoustic cues. "Stage imaging" is a by-product of this configuration (some may disagree). Stage imaging (when all the music content seem to be centered in the front of the listener) is, "a traditionally preferred listening choice", it is not a requirement.</p><p></p><p>When a person hears a song that they really enjoy, what ever that song may be, it makes them feel good. Regardless if the person can hear the song more to the right, more to the left, coming from behind, or coming from the front. But what really gets the attention and impacts the listener is when the song is coming from every direction, 360 degrees everywhere. This type of sound is what makes the listener visualize and appreciate what the song is conveying. Traditional Stage Imaging does this in part. Not saying that TSI does not sound appealing to the ear, but I think (just my opinion), that music playing all around you gives a better immersive experience.</p><p></p><p>Therefore, I would like to address the "elusive front staging in car audio". I say the hell with front staging, and go with Sound All Around. I say, make your front door speakers or kick panels air tight as possible. Mount tweeters either on A pilers or B. Install rear door speakers. DIY some mid bass drivers in the rear deck. And add Subwoofers. There is a lot of technical stuff that has to be done with this set-up, but thats beyond the scope of this topic. Point is, Highs coming from the side or front or both. Mid range band coming from the side and from behind. Mid bass, perceptually coming from the sides and behind. And sub bass would seem to come from everywhere (omni directional). Woooooooow, isn't this close to what a vocalist may hear performing with a live band.</p><p></p><p>Of course this setup is a theory and would take a lot of tuning to get right, but tuned it can be. So for those of you who read this thread. Please give thoughts.</p><p></p><p>All replies are welcomed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bassick, post: 8160475, member: 656783"] First I would like to explain what I mean about "Sound All Around". "Sound All Around" means, experiencing music from the artist or vocalist point of view performing with a live band. When a live band is performing all the instruments are either to the side of or behind the vocalist. I know everyone is going to ring in and say, "that is so that the listeners can hear the stage imaging". But what if you are the vocalist? The center stage or placement of the vocalist is the perfect spot to hear all the instruments without one or the other being to dominant so that the vocalist can feel the instruments, thus better acoustic cues. "Stage imaging" is a by-product of this configuration (some may disagree). Stage imaging (when all the music content seem to be centered in the front of the listener) is, "a traditionally preferred listening choice", it is not a requirement. When a person hears a song that they really enjoy, what ever that song may be, it makes them feel good. Regardless if the person can hear the song more to the right, more to the left, coming from behind, or coming from the front. But what really gets the attention and impacts the listener is when the song is coming from every direction, 360 degrees everywhere. This type of sound is what makes the listener visualize and appreciate what the song is conveying. Traditional Stage Imaging does this in part. Not saying that TSI does not sound appealing to the ear, but I think (just my opinion), that music playing all around you gives a better immersive experience. Therefore, I would like to address the "elusive front staging in car audio". I say the hell with front staging, and go with Sound All Around. I say, make your front door speakers or kick panels air tight as possible. Mount tweeters either on A pilers or B. Install rear door speakers. DIY some mid bass drivers in the rear deck. And add Subwoofers. There is a lot of technical stuff that has to be done with this set-up, but thats beyond the scope of this topic. Point is, Highs coming from the side or front or both. Mid range band coming from the side and from behind. Mid bass, perceptually coming from the sides and behind. And sub bass would seem to come from everywhere (omni directional). Woooooooow, isn't this close to what a vocalist may hear performing with a live band. Of course this setup is a theory and would take a lot of tuning to get right, but tuned it can be. So for those of you who read this thread. Please give thoughts. All replies are welcomed. [/QUOTE]
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