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<blockquote data-quote="McIntosh" data-source="post: 5791377" data-attributes="member: 605496">Its not my intent to &quot;attack&quot; posters. Some info by &quot;experts&quot; is so far from the truth it irks me. People who emphatically state a short piece of wire can carry more current than a long piece of wire comes to mind. The AWG determines the ampacity (I&#039;m pretty sure you know that). WTF kind of moron tells people a short piece of #8 can carry 200 amps? If their car burns down in their driveway, no prob for me. With my luck I&#039;ll be stuck next to them at a stoplight and I&#039;ll get caught up in it.It surely seems this forum is all about quantity and not quality, which I also don&#039;t understand. SPL is the goal. Lets say I just bought a new plasma TV. 80&quot; (who cares, just an example). I say &quot;this is really bright&quot;. Lets have a contest! Mine&#039;s brighter you say. Lets turn them on. They&#039;re both so bright you can&#039;t possibly look at them, but one is certainly brighter. There&#039;s a winner? I guess there is when you compare brightness, but neither are viewable without sunglasses. Not a very useful TV and the picture quality sucks on both. But they sure are bright. I hear people most every day driving by with woofer excursion slapping the stops. Nice. I know it sounds like shit outside the car, how good can it sound inside? I really don&#039;t wanna know.FWIW, my &quot;system&quot; is 1984 Alpine amps (100W/ch rear and 40W/ch front) that STILL crank. I have 3-way &quot;home speakers&quot; in the back with only 8&quot; woofs that render the rear view mirror useless. Its louder than any human can stand for any period of time, trust me. Is it 140+dB? Surely not. Can you stand it for an hour? Not without permanent hearing damage. More than overkill and 25 years later still working just fine. 280 watts of yesteryear. Are there better out there? Naturally. My Nephew&#039;s 146 dB system sounds like shit. Subwoofers and crap increase SPL, but not necessarily in a good way.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="McIntosh, post: 5791377, member: 605496"] Its not my intent to "attack" posters. Some info by "experts" is so far from the truth it irks me. People who emphatically state a short piece of wire can carry more current than a long piece of wire comes to mind. The AWG determines the ampacity (I'm pretty sure you know that). WTF kind of moron tells people a short piece of #8 can carry 200 amps? If their car burns down in their driveway, no prob for me. With my luck I'll be stuck next to them at a stoplight and I'll get caught up in it. It surely seems this forum is all about quantity and not quality, which I also don't understand. SPL is the goal. Lets say I just bought a new plasma TV. 80" (who cares, just an example). I say "this is really bright". Lets have a contest! Mine's brighter you say. Lets turn them on. They're both so bright you can't possibly look at them, but one is certainly brighter. There's a winner? I guess there is when you compare brightness, but neither are viewable without sunglasses. Not a very useful TV and the picture quality sucks on both. But they sure are bright. I hear people most every day driving by with woofer excursion slapping the stops. Nice. I know it sounds like shit outside the car, how good can it sound inside? I really don't wanna know. FWIW, my "system" is 1984 Alpine amps (100W/ch rear and 40W/ch front) that STILL crank. I have 3-way "home speakers" in the back with only 8" woofs that render the rear view mirror useless. Its louder than any human can stand for any period of time, trust me. Is it 140+dB? Surely not. Can you stand it for an hour? Not without permanent hearing damage. More than overkill and 25 years later still working just fine. 280 watts of yesteryear. Are there better out there? Naturally. My Nephew's 146 dB system sounds like shit. Subwoofers and crap increase SPL, but not necessarily in a good way. [/QUOTE]

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