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<blockquote data-quote="VereChronicus" data-source="post: 1446649" data-attributes="member: 565864">taken from their web site:TDX Technology TMKevlar/Nomex Driver and Neodymium MagnetType: Bass DriverSize: 12 in.Power Handling NOM/MAX: 800/1600 wattsSensitivity (2.83V/1m): 86.5 dB SPLFreq. Response: 20-250Mounting Depth/Diameter: 8 in. / 11.1 in.now i&#039;d like to highlight 86.5dB SPL 1w/1m.How do we achieve this....... low motor strength in regards to it&#039;s suspension compliance. you will come across the same answer if you ask DAT what their BL product is on that subwoofer. every one of them will have a trade off and their slightly more firm suspension is simply due to the fact that they want the subwoofer to handle what is it.....800wrms of input. the problem is this, they do it with glue. it is a single or dual spider system at most with a higher resin content. that comes off as you play it, the louder you play it the faster the glue goes bye bye. the initial blanket statement of loose suspensions and weak motors was generally pointing in the direction of JL Audio products. whom most users consider to produce &quot;SQ&quot; products. and as far as SQ drivers go, to reproduce SQ level performance....95dB average with 105dB peaks, we can compare the TDX to the lesser W6&#039;s and the such as most people can&#039;t tell the difference at low volume. But, with that suspension, being stiffer than it&#039;s counterpart JL offering, it will need more input power to reproduce the same effect. we can both agree on this?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="VereChronicus, post: 1446649, member: 565864"] taken from their web site: TDX Technology TM Kevlar/Nomex Driver and Neodymium Magnet Type: Bass Driver Size: 12 in. Power Handling NOM/MAX: 800/1600 watts Sensitivity (2.83V/1m): 86.5 dB SPL Freq. Response: 20-250 Mounting Depth/Diameter: 8 in. / 11.1 in. now i'd like to highlight 86.5dB SPL 1w/1m. How do we achieve this....... low motor strength in regards to it's suspension compliance. you will come across the same answer if you ask DAT what their BL product is on that subwoofer. every one of them will have a trade off and their slightly more firm suspension is simply due to the fact that they want the subwoofer to handle what is it.....800wrms of input. the problem is this, they do it with glue. it is a single or dual spider system at most with a higher resin content. that comes off as you play it, the louder you play it the faster the glue goes bye bye. the initial blanket statement of loose suspensions and weak motors was generally pointing in the direction of JL Audio products. whom most users consider to produce "SQ" products. and as far as SQ drivers go, to reproduce SQ level performance....95dB average with 105dB peaks, we can compare the TDX to the lesser W6's and the such as most people can't tell the difference at low volume. But, with that suspension, being stiffer than it's counterpart JL offering, it will need more input power to reproduce the same effect. we can both agree on this? [/QUOTE]

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