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<blockquote data-quote="3Dflyer" data-source="post: 1970236" data-attributes="member: 568390">Yes, 3D r/c helicopter and airplane flying....&nbsp; Talk about putting a hole in the audio budget... go price out a top of the line r/c heli and electronics.15 years flies by: Terminally ill father needed 24/7 care @4.5 years, then college, then career, then graduate school, first home (nice), then wife&#039;s graduate school, kid #1 and recently kid #2.&nbsp; Don&#039;t take long to burn 15 years and a lot of loose cash!Looking for a basic install.&nbsp; I want to stay passive up front and run some slimline 10&#039;s or quality 8&#039;s for subs.&nbsp; I am waiting to see how the new eD 10&quot; low profile subs turn out.&nbsp; I have an Audiomobile MASS 2412 12&quot; sub rated at 1,000 watts rms, but it is proving too big to install in the family minivan.I guess it comes down to taking a risk and buying used off of ebay or this forum for an old school amp, or learning what is a good quality modern amp and going brand new.I am on a budget.&nbsp; I guess from the observations I have made thus far that a good old school PPI system could be had for about $600.&nbsp; I would like to spend as little as possible, though.&nbsp; It seems some of the modern multichannel amps can be had for that price range as well.&nbsp; An Elemental Design nINE.2 and nINE.4 might do the trick for around $400.&nbsp; I just don&#039;t know about this company.&nbsp; Their nINE.1 and nINE.2x would also make a great combo for about $600.&nbsp; I only wish I new how they compared to the PPI, MTX, RF, Sansui, McIntosh, Zapco, US Amps, Pehonix Gold old school stuff.I would say Pheonix gold, PPI, a/d/s, and McIntosh were on the top of the food chain when I left the hobby.I can assure you that I don&#039;t want to get into upgrading the alternator, caps, batteries, etc.&nbsp; I drive a minivan for Pete&#039;s sake.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="3Dflyer, post: 1970236, member: 568390"] Yes, 3D r/c helicopter and airplane flying.... Talk about putting a hole in the audio budget... go price out a top of the line r/c heli and electronics. 15 years flies by: Terminally ill father needed 24/7 care @4.5 years, then college, then career, then graduate school, first home (nice), then wife's graduate school, kid #1 and recently kid #2. Don't take long to burn 15 years and a lot of loose cash! Looking for a basic install. I want to stay passive up front and run some slimline 10's or quality 8's for subs. I am waiting to see how the new eD 10" low profile subs turn out. I have an Audiomobile MASS 2412 12" sub rated at 1,000 watts rms, but it is proving too big to install in the family minivan. I guess it comes down to taking a risk and buying used off of ebay or this forum for an old school amp, or learning what is a good quality modern amp and going brand new. I am on a budget. I guess from the observations I have made thus far that a good old school PPI system could be had for about $600. I would like to spend as little as possible, though. It seems some of the modern multichannel amps can be had for that price range as well. An Elemental Design nINE.2 and nINE.4 might do the trick for around $400. I just don't know about this company. Their nINE.1 and nINE.2x would also make a great combo for about $600. I only wish I new how they compared to the PPI, MTX, RF, Sansui, McIntosh, Zapco, US Amps, Pehonix Gold old school stuff. I would say Pheonix gold, PPI, a/d/s, and McIntosh were on the top of the food chain when I left the hobby. I can assure you that I don't want to get into upgrading the alternator, caps, batteries, etc. I drive a minivan for Pete's sake. [/QUOTE]

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